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[qs]My position is that in the latter days the nation of Israel will be established upon the same land which the nation existed in ancient times when the prophecies were spoken.[/qs]

Well, ok, but where else would you establish it?

Should I be impressed that the tea "miraculously" never fails to take on the shape of the inside of the teacup?

[qs]Their descendants, regardless of where they would be born, i.e. Jews, would come out of the nations and migrate back to the land from which their ancient forbears lived.[/qs]

That's what I'm getting at, though. Their "forebears" didn't live there because, for about half of all Israeli Jews, their forebears weren't the Jews of ancient Israel. The population of Israel aren't, for the most part, descendants of anybody who ever lived in Israel before 1947.

[qs]Crashy, surely you've got enough smarts to know that where ever Jews reside, they are identifiable as descendants of ancient Jews.[/qs]

No more than my wife is the descendant of my grandfather. You can argue the Bible, Buz, but you can't argue with genetics. That someone is Jewish does not mean that they have any particular ancestry of the ancient Jews of Old Israel.

[qs]For example, in NYC, Jews are Jews are Jews, regardless of whether they are atheistic, Christian Jews or orthodox Jews.[/qs]

You only think that because you don't know anything about Jews. There are Ashkenazi Jews, Mizrahi Jews, Sephardi Jews, and even Jews of Chinese extraction called the "Kaifeng Jews." They're <i>united</i> by a common religion, but there's a dozen independent <i>peoples</i> within that religion. To say that "Jews are Jews" and therefore all Jews are the descendants of Ancient Israel is as dumb as saying that you and Jar are both Christians, therefore you're related. You may be Brothers in Christ but Jesus didn't mean that to imply genetic sequence identity.

[qs]Over the centuries, evidently there was some micro-evolving pertaining to them and enough Negro blood in their genes to change the color of their skin.[/qs]

Jesus, Buz, we don't say "Negro" anymore. Catch up with the times, you old racist.

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