Some Specific Biblical Prophecies

There's so many great ones.......... Let's see, where to begin. We'll go with this one, a significant prophecy of Jesus in what is known as the Olivet Dicourse, when his desciples asked him about the end times and when he'd be returning to planet earth as they conversed/discoursed on the Mount of Olives. This occasion was recorded by three writers being, 1. Matthew in Matt. 24, 2. Mark in Mark 13 and Luke in Luke 21. Each of these writers added details of the event.This prophecy of Jesus himself is, imo, a good example of a fulfilled prophecy which under normal conditions just should'nt come to pass.Luke 21:24: "And they (Jews) shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led captive into all the nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled."
1. Written about 33 AD.
2. Written while Jews occupying the land and specifically, for the purpose of this prophecy the city of Jerusalem. They were under Roman rule, but were occupying the city.
3. They were to be removed from the city and end up in all nations of the world according to the prophecy.
4. Gentile nations were to occupy the city after Jews gone, but there would come a time when Gentiles would no longer occupy the city, implying that either there would be nobody occupying the city after Gentile occupation or that the Jews would again return to the city.
5. Century after century after century passed with this nation and that nation in and out of the city and Jews eventually scattered to nearly all nations of the planet, including the Western hemisphere, unknown to the people at the time of the prophecy.
6. In spite of persecution, hardship and being bounced around the planet, Jews remain intact as a people wherever they were. Nazis vowed to anhilate them and rid all Europe of them.
7. Jews begin returning at a time when some other prophecies of end times (to be discussed later) begin to come into fulfillment. Then in 1948 Israel becomes a nation in spite of protest from Gentile nations.
8. A series of wars ensued, each of which were fought with great odds against the Jews who were outnumbered by about 20 to one and by nations all backed by then powerful Russia.
9. But Jesus's prophecy not yet fulfilled, the old city of Jerusalem still being occupied by Gentiles.
10 Then in June, 1967 Israel was beseiged on every side by heavily armed hostile armies vowing to drive the Jews into the Mediterraean. The rest is history. In six days the Jews were occupying the entire old city, weeping and rejoicing at the Wailing Wall on the Temple Mount.
11. JESUS'S REMARKABLE PROPHECY FULFILLED TO THE "T" some 19 CENTURIES AFTER THE PROPHECY GIVEN!! So ye skeptical scoffing scholars, sickem! [This message has been edited by buzsaw, 10-20-2003]

Notice, everyone, how Buz leaves off the next lines: "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!"And, most critically:I assure you, this generation will not pass from the scene until all these events have taken place. ------------------
"Illuminant light,
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10 Then in June, 1967 Israel was beseiged on every side by heavily armed hostile armies vowing to drive the Jews into the Mediterraean.

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Gotta love selective memory. Israel started the 6-day war.

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Then in 1948 Israel becomes a nation in spite of protest from Gentile nations.

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Gotta love it still. Britain, and later America, was the one who set up the whole nation-for-the-Jews concept.Let's take this prophecy one step further. Buzsaw, pick any random ancient empire, nation, city-state, whatever. Go ahead, be my guest - take your pick.------------------
"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."

These verses follow the sermonVerily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.The generation he spoke of has passed.Does this mean everything is fulfilled?Wha' happened?By the way what is to become of heaven eventually as jesus says it shall pass away?[This message has been edited by sidelined, 10-20-2003]

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1. Written about 33 AD.

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How do you know this? Perhaps, as many scholars believe, the Gospels were written after 70 CE, in which case the "prophecy" of the fall of Jerusalem was written after the fact.

After you squirm your way out of that one we shall go for the REAL test.Show us a passage that will come to pass and tell us what it will entail i.e. nations involved,politics used,what signs there shall be.

So ye skeptics, specifically what part of the prophecy has not been fulfilled?

Ok I will point it out.Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.That generation has passed a long time ago.Any events after that generation cannot be attributed to the sermon on the mount since those prophecies have been fulfilled.[This message has been edited by sidelined, 10-20-2003]

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How do you know this? Perhaps, as many scholars believe, the Gospels were written after 70 CE, in which case the "prophecy" of the fall of Jerusalem was written after the fact.

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Only those who wish to discredit the Bible believe this. But even if it was the case, the incredible fulfillment would still be in fact that the nation survived in exile, scattered globally, identifiable after 19 centuries and returned under such incredible odds to re-establish themselves as a nation. It's clear, you people are very hard pressed for substantial refutation of this incredible prophecy. It's like you have this wonderful diamond and you're tossing it into the garbage. What'r you gonna say in the judgement when given such light which you're flat out rejecting?

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Gotta love selective memory. Israel started the 6-day war.

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Where were you in June, '67, Rei? I was following the war very closely, reading things like the headlines of King Naser of Egypt declaring Israel was going to be driven into the sea. My athiest friend who lived near my antique store in So Calif. strolled into my antique store a coupla days before the war and said, "Who's gonna win, the 20 million Arabs backed by Russia or the 2 million Jews? I said, "Wells, the 2 million will win cause the Bible says so. It may take a few months, but they'll win." "No way," says Wells. Well, Wells never became a Christian over it, but in six days I's a heartily razzin my good buddy athiest, Wells. [This message has been edited by buzsaw, 10-21-2003]

Luke 21:24
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilledWhen the savior spoke this he was speaking of "his generation" NOT the generation of Luke, or Matt, or any of the other apostles or anyone that lived dureing that time. If you would like to debate this prophecy let me know.-Quiz

Excuse me but BULLS..T! It states This generation NOT My generation.This is lowest form of crap that I deal with in these forums where a point is taken from the book Christians cite as gospel and when those very words contradict their position they literally rephrase the very words themselves rather than admit its presence.We apologize, but the page layout is not visible because you are using an older browser. We recommend upgrading to a standards-compliant browser. Without such, this page will remain viewable, though not as well formatted. We would like to help you make this look better for you. Please let us know. The colors below are not ideal, but are designed to help you see the page better.
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Easton's Dictionary (E) Subject Guide (S) Hitchcock's Dictionary (H)--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Luk 3:7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Luk 7:31 And the Lord said, Whereunto then shall I liken the men of this generation? and to what are they like?--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Luk 9:41 And Jesus answering said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you, and suffer you? Bring thy son hither.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Luk 11:29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Luk 11:30 For as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of man be to this generation.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Luk 11:31 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with the men of this generation, and condemn them: for she came from the utmost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon [is] here.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Luk 11:32 The men of Nineve shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas [is] here.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Luk 11:50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Luk 11:51 From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Luk 16:8 And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Luk 17:25 But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generationThese are all from the same area of the book and what does generation refer to here?[This message has been edited by sidelined, 10-21-2003]

No, he said, THIS generation not YOUR generation!-Quiz

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When the savior spoke this he was speaking of "his generation"

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The fulfillment clearly shows that "this generation" meant the generation which sees these things begin to happen. Like you might say, "There's gona be a comet pass in the year 2110. This generation will be watching for it to pass." Clearly, "this generation" would refer to a future generation which is expecting the comet.Quiz, you can begin debate right here and now. Please begin by showing and telling specifically which part of the prophecy has not been fulfilled. It's the wee hours (yawn) here in the East n got work to do tomorrow, so talk to ya later.[This message has been edited by buzsaw, 10-21-2003]

Mmm, Quiz, it's a little confusing as to which side you're on here after rereading your post. Please clarify. Thanks.