Windows 3 described in the Bible

A follow up answer to questions generated by Edward's wheel/DVD post An extraction from Ronald Pegg's Discoveries. Used with permission.The Windows 3 operating system's File Manager Screen is {relatively} clearly stated in a sequence of original Hebrew words of 1Kings 7:4-5 but the added English words and amended sentence structure hide the message in "And {there were} windows {in} three rows, and light {was} against light {in} three ranks. And all the doors and posts {were} square, with the windows: and light {was} against light {in} three ranks."Removing the added words (*as found in the KJV Bible) gives; "Windows three. Rows light. Against light three ranks. All the doors and posts square. With the windows light against light, three ranks".In Strong's Concordance Word 4237 "light" means 'window' but comes from Word 2372 which specifically means 'to have a vision of' as in 'to perceive'. Therefore Etymology of the word "light" conveys the feel that there is some type of vision in a window.This reads as; "Windows 3. Rows perceived. Against three perceived ranks. All the doors and posts; square within the perceived windows. Against three perceived ranks.This is saying that "Windows 3 (the operating system). Rows seen (the rows of windows in the File Manager). All the doors and posts (the scroll bars and borders) within the windows are square".
Why are we told twice "Against three perceived ranks" ?
We are being told that these words are encoded, therefore we need to recheck the Etymology.
Word 7969 "three" as an ordinal number means 'third'. Word 6471 "rank" means 'to stroke' but comes from word 6470 which means 'to tap'.So "Against three perceived ranks" = 'against the third perceived to tap' and because the English translation has rearranged the original word sequence, this gives "to tap against the third perceived {window}".So does the Windows 3- File Manager's screen have three square windows, and do we stroke (click the mouse) in the third window ?Yes. To run the Ancients CD-Rom we need to click on the appropriate highlighted in the third window - the one containing the programme.exe file.

Why would a time traveller take a computer he would have had to borrow from a museum instead of a modern machine that would weigh a tenth of the older computer and have longer battery life?

Federally funded project. The basic design and equipment list was finalized twenty-nine years before the initial travel date. Therefore even though the actual time travel happened in 2022 the system specifications were still at the 1993 level.Just look at the early space ventures. Folk were shot up in rockets with so little computer capability that to come home they had to dump the existing program and upload the next sequence.Makes perfect sense to me.ps: if you use the same decryption methods on Revelation you find that it was actually an attempt by Bill Gates to open a windows market in 2304BCE and thus prempt Johann Gutenberg. He was particularly excited about the possibility of including the capability of printing indulgences and they were due to be incorporated at the system level.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

In my opinion, finding descriptions of the Ancients cd-rom in ancient texts from all around the world, and depictions of the images from it in various ancient artworks as Mr Pegg has done, shows that particular ancient people viewed the content of the Ancients cd-rom.
Time Travel is Mr Pegg's conclusion. I can not think of another explanation at this point of time.
Did an old 386 computer get taken back in time, or did the ancient person get brought forward in time ?
Or was a holographic projection of a computer and its images sent back ?
Did the time travellers visit the mid 1990s and collect a new PC 386 plus the disks ?I personally do not know the answers to these questions.
But Mr Pegg's work shows that specific people at specific times describe a computer system (oracle), as if they personally sat at a table (altar of god?) and used the mouse (staff) to make the 'cup of knowledge' (cd-rom) give forth its knowledge on the magic mirror (monitor) while being attended by a messenger (time traveller) in a bright light.
Other texts describe in detail the parts of a computer (temple pieces) that were stolen from the Jerusalem Temple.
The 'end time' history that has been provided by the messenger (time traveller) to ancient people that has been written up as stories, has been found to describe several events including the disclosure of the E.L.S. Bible code between 1958 and 1997 by Dr Eliyahu Rips and Michael Drosnin (Elijah and Michael), plus a description of the 1990/1991 Persian Gulf War (cf. Daniel 11 and Revelations 9).Remove the mistranslations and religious interpretations from ancient texts and use the original word meanings, and modern historical events and modern objects are being described.
Is this evidence of time travel - and the source of ancient myths, legends, and religions ?
I believe so. They have a time machine at their disposal - maybe they didn't visit a museum but went back to the mid 1990s and obtained a new PC 386 ! ?I personally agree with the logic of some of your comments, and point out that I was presenting Mr Pegg's conclusions from the evidence that he has discovered. So it is probably now relevant to briefly present an overview of his findings so that you can evaluate his evidence for yourselves. (An answer to a previous question, and a new introduction to the PPHC Study Group's web site also preambles this topic.)The individual word by word decodings of the following verses may be found in the Members Area of the PPHC Study Group web site.
Hebrew descriptions:
Along with the two Tables of Testimony (cf. the ancient wheels) and associated with the Ark of the Covenant (box of compacts) were dishes with a cover and bowls, an Ark of Testimony, a Table, a Tabernacle, and a Mercy Seat.
In Exodus 35:11-13 we are further told of the tabernacle of the Oracle apparatus plus its attributes.Exodus 35:11 decodes as "The conspicuous covering of the residence. Something belayed is to fill in the hollow and be held firmly in position on the protrusion from the tabernacle that splits off then flees suddenly".
The "protrusion from the tabernacle" = the CD-Rom Drive Tray (mercy seat) that protrudes from a computer and then "flees suddenly" once a compact disk is placed "firmly in position in the hollow".Exodus 35:12-13 decodes as "From the sockets at the foundation of the controller box; a separation - the Mercy Seat lid and the sacred screen; joined together - a spread out table and a staff utensil".
This describes a computer system - The "staff utensil" (a computer's mouse) and the "spread out table" (the keyboard) are joined to the "controller box" (CPU box) via "sockets" at its base, as is the "sacred screen" (monitor).Exodus 38:7-8 tells us attributes of the Mercy Seat and Looking Glass, and reveals that; the Mercy Seat altar is a yellowish* round excavated platform for a glistening polished plate. (ie. the protruding CD-Rom Tray in which the disk sits.); and that the looking-glass mirror has a brass* coloured stand. (ie. the monitor's stand is a yellowish* shade.) This is the colour of the plastic generally used for computers in the early 1990s, and is from where Mr Pegg begins to formulate his conclusion that a PC 386 was seen and described.The ancient Hebrew people have faithfully described the pieces of the apparatus through which they consulted the Oracle in their Jerusalem Temple, but due to the Old English religious translations not always using the original meanings of the Hebrew words, the description of a computer system has not been recognized - until now.- The Temple of the Lord is the CPU (computer box) in a Tower Case.
- The Mercy Seat refers to the CD-Drive Tray upon which you place the offering (compact disk) at the top of the - Tower.
- The Sacred Screen (ark of testimony) is the Monitor on its Stand. (= The Looking Glass/magic mirror)
- The Spread out Table is the Keyboard.
- The Sacred Rod (Staff of Moses) is the Mouse and its Cable.
- The Plates are the clear Plastic containers that hold the compact disks.
- The Two Stone Tables are two specifically documented and described compact disks.
- The Ark of the Covenant is a wooden box that held the compact disks.
- The Horns refer to the stereo Speakers.The decoding of 2 Kings 25:17 reveals a data transfer rate of 8 bit - again, mid 1990s level of technology.In a previous post, 1Kings 7:4-5 describes the Windows 3 File Manager window, and John recounts the date and size of the data file that runs the Ancients cd-rom in Revelations 7:4-8.
Windows 3 was a mid 1990s operating system.The Plates of Mormon:
In the (Mormon) Book of Ether (1:2 and 3:1) of 100BC, the number of floppy disks and compact disks required to set up and boot up a specific computer system is reported, and is confirmed in Numbers 7:88.
From a total of 24 ‘plates’, there are 8 vessels, and 16 small stones. (8 + 16 = 24)
The "vessels" are described differently to the small "stones" (therefore they are larger).
As previously discovered, these vessels are exactly described in Numbers 7:84-85 as colourless square breast-plates that contain 120mm compact disks.
"Small" stone plates = floppy discs: "Large" plates (vessels) = CD-Roms.Thus the ancient people of Limhi found 16 floppy discs and 8 CD-Roms in a "box" (ark) that was originally used for the computer (Oracle) in Jerusalem (at the temple of the Lord).Does it take 16 floppy discs to load the software for a 386 VGA computer with a double-speed CD-Rom Drive and a Sound Card to run the three mentioned CD-Roms?
Yes !Using etymology, the literal decoding of Numbers 7:88 reads as "A number of the herd that are offered up have a locking metal protector. 24 are divided into a force of 16. These 16 to prepare. The thick end of an unrecognizable different group of 16 very thin raising devices, packed full that teaches the fundamentals of knowledge with information, begin to build for a sacred purpose and to show and give signs".In summary, here are some of the pieces of evidence that led Mr Pegg to the PC 386 conclusion
Individual pieces of a computer are described in Hebrew texts, and are of a yellowish colour. 8 bit technology. Windows 3 operating system. 1995 cd-rom needs a PC 386 as a minimum. Mormon historical records mention the number of floppy disks required to set up MS-Dos 6 and Windows 3 on a PC 386. A Mormon historical picture shows a witness holding a clear plastic cd-rom case.Many attributes of a mid 1990s PC 386 are described and documented in ancient texts - therefore my conclusion is that a PC 386 computer system is being described.
Unfortunately, this does not clarify whether a PC 386 was sent back in time, or the ancient 'prophet' himself came forward in time. I do not personally know. To alert people to the fact that time travel encounters have influenced the formation of the world's religions.
Many attempts were made to correct the formation of religions due to the previous chronological encounter with a time traveller, but due to modern technology overwhelming ancient people, it only compounded the situation.
The attempt to place a letter skip code that contained modern historical data in the Bible also failed to alert modern (mid to late 20th century) scholars to the realization that the Bible is not what it seems.
The attempt in the mid 1500s in France to conceal modern history in the works of Nostradamus also failed to bring about an early warning.I believe that the reason for all these failures pertains to the fact that the technology being used to hide or conceal modern information in ancient texts was not understood either by the ancient person in the first place and secondly by the modern person 'decoding' these strange texts - and/or by both due to the religious perceptions covering over this 'encoded' information.
Another relevant point is that even if the exact modern events were written in a sentence by the modern decoders, they would not have found a corresponding historical match until after the event had actually occurred. This is why the 'end time' stories have remained a mystery for so long - the events had not yet occurred.Then came along Ronald Pegg using a PC 386 computer himself after the 'encoded' historical events had occurred and the Ancients cd-rom was produced. Not knowing Hebrew or Greek, he read the Old English KJV Bible and used Strong's Concordance and an Australian dictionary to find out what the old words actually meant.
He noted that religious scholars are waiting for someone called Michael preceded by Elijah to "unseal" an 'end time' book, that specific imagery plus historical and astronomical events (signs) have been carefully described by ancient 'prophets' who were visited by "an angel", and that many of the people, places, and 'history' related in ancient texts have not been corroborated by any other historical records of similar times.So you can imagine Mr Pegg's surprise on July 22 1998 when he viewed the Ancients cd-rom, and there, in the middle of the screen, above the glassy sea, were four icons - a lion, a face of a man, an ox, and something like eagle's wings - just as John and Ezekiel from the Bible describe.
He then read about the 'end time war' in the Bible (cf. Daniel 11 and Revelations 9), and referring to several books about the 1991 Persian Gulf War, found that the information exactly matched.
The elusive 'exodus' that is not documented in any other ancient texts except in the Bible is an exact description of the April 1991 exodus by Iraqi Kurds into the Turkish mountains.The important point here, is that not only did Mr Pegg know what a PC 386 computer was and knew how to use a cd-rom, but the historical events by 1998 had already occurred - so when he read the Bible using the original meanings and not the given religious rhetoric, he simply found the corresponding data in contemporary history books.It is possible that the descriptions of a PC 386 computer running Windows 3 were deliberately placed in the ancient texts by future people, knowing that unlike all the previous attempts where the contrast in technology and understanding was great and led to misunderstandings, Mr Pegg would be aware of the technology and recognize what was being described.This is what I think, based upon the available evidence, and may answer your questions of why an old (to us in 2004) PC 386 and Windows 3 is described in the Bible.

look up dr. brendan mckay of the australian national university. he's a computer scientist, and has THOROUGHLY disporved the supposed "bible code"most results are obtained through manipulation of techniques. (some in english, some in hebrew, some in hebrew without the vowels... make up your mind!). and more consistent resutls can be found in moby dick, which even predicted the death of princess di. you still haven't told me exactly how biblion connotates roundness, removed from english. the question was WHY.in any case, i know of a few people that would gladly donate a more advanced computer to such a venture. hell, i'll even throw in "the ten commandments" on dvd, and "the passion of the christ" as well when it comes out.the question was alsy why the conclusion of a 386? what evidence shows this? what evidence shows that it was that particular cdrom? is it anything in the texts, or just coincidences with the number of messengers in the endtimes and a file size? and we're reading into it that a box described as holding some scrolls and two stones held two stones and some scrolls, instead of a bunch of cdroms?although, i did hear an interesting theory about it being a giant battery. i think this is more plausible. my copy reads:

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The tabernacle, his tent, and his covering, his hooks, and his boards, his bars, his pillars, and his bases, The ark, and the staves thereof, [with] the mercy seat, and the vail of the covering, The table, and his staves, and all his vessels, and the shewbread,

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where, pray tell, did the rest come from? moses is listing stuff that the israelites are to MAKE from offerings they were to give, as per the lord's previous instruction. so if it's a computer, they MADE it THEMSELVES. of course, i'll grant you this one: maybe god is a time-traveler.

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And he put the staves into the rings on the sides of the altar, to bear it withal; he made the altar hollow with boards. And he made the laver [of] brass, and the foot of it [of] brass, of the lookingglasses of [the women] assembling, which assembled [at] the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.

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it says the people donated stuff. so if it's a computer, the "excavated" bit was literally made of brass people had brought with them, and "monitor" from mirrors the ladies used.this one i don't get:

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The height of the one pillar [was] eighteen cubits, and the chapiter upon it [was] brass: and the height of the chapiter three cubits; and the wreathen work, and pomegranates upon the chapiter round about, all of brass: and like unto these had the second pillar with wreathen work.

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also, 8 bits is not a transfer rate but a parity. it designats teh amount of information in a byte. 8 bit is enough for ascii text, one null character, and seven binary bits to for an ascii code for a letter.windows 3.1, btw, is 16 bit. not 8. only if solomon lived in a computer. verse 1:

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But Solomon was building his own house thirteen years, and he finished all his house.

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i think the mormon bit is stretching it, but for a second, i'll grant it plausibility. i remember when cd-rom's were new. i was in middle school. they were originally made in plastic square cases even. kinda dorky looking, but it makes more sense than they way they do things now. during that time, the only computer i ever used that had to boot up fro even ONE floppy was an apple 2 gs (goddamned slow, as it was called). it must have been ten years old at the time, and we were running pentium 1's everywhere else. so there's a problem. 386's were long gone by the time cd-rom's came on the scene for popular use. and everything since, well, ever in the pc world has had a hard drive. only apple was stupid enough to no include one inside the case. every 386 i ever used had hard drive in it. the one i owned, a compaq laptop, had a 60 meg hard drive. that's 42 floppies.

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And all the oxen for the sacrifice of the peace offerings [were] twenty and four bullocks, the rams sixty, the he goats sixty, the lambs of the first year sixty. This [was] the dedication of the altar, after that it was anointed.

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note: that's sixty. i checked. they're talking about a big sacrifice. what do you think they're saying? and, uhh, i checked the etymology. i don't know hebrew or greek, but i know people who do. and of course, i can use a concordance. i even offered my own translation of one of the verse you used in the other thread, making sure to adhere to word order, root meaning and etymology, and tense. and it still says nothing like that. this is the only example i have ever seen of "pre-hoc propter-hoc." lol. it's more plausible to asume the blatant logical fallacy of "POST-hoc propter-hoc" rather than assume that because something now bears similarity to something a long time ago, that new thing must have caused the older thing, and draw the conclusion of time travel from that. if anything, the first one caused the second! although, at best, it's really a circumstantial reading of the text, ignoring real meaning and context, and reading way too far into something in the wrong direction. it's reasonably well known that john in revelation was talking about nero csar, and the burning of rome. if you want some proof, take nero's name in hebrew: nrwn qsr. since hebrew letters work like roman numerals and have significance, and n=50, r=200, w=6, q=100, and s=60, nero = 666. apparently, it also works in aramaic. doesn't fit the context of the story at all. for one, jesus is claimed as a descendant of moses... and they literally say "egypt" "pharoah" etc, and even name places and people at some points.

Why would they? It'd be more expensive, heavier, and bulkier than something they could get off the shelf at Circuit City.Time travel can't be so easy and cheap that they'd waste it on as frivolous a trip as getting a computer that sucks. Why would they bother? It defies rationality. You're kidding right? You haven't even come close to explaining why time travelers would use an obsolete system. I wouldn't even buy that as science fiction, and you expect us to swallow it?Come up with an explanation as to the most glaring logical hole - there's no reason for time travellers in the future to be sent back with obsolete, expensive technologies.

Maybe Windows XP wasn't compatible with Torah 1.0?

They're not from the future - we just don't know about them yet.

.txt files, my friend. or better yet, jpeg's.

so they can build a quantum computer, but not a pentium 2?

Sounds about as plausible as the rest of the story.

*blinks*jesus horsefucking christ.well that's a nice fairy tale for the day. i don't get why people believe this stuff. it's easy to find something when you're looking for it. it's not like every word you use is a unique one. i bet i could find something coded in this post.fairy i believe to looking like is bet coded.oh well. i tried.

Windows 3.1 takes 6 floppy discs.
Sound drivers takes 1 floppy disc.
CD-Rom drivers *may* be required, takes 1 floppy disc.If you stretch this a bit, and use 5.25" 720kb discs, it comes out at 12+1+1=14.Could you please explain your reasoning for the number 16?

i can vouch for this. i've set up windows 3.1 a number of times. actually, most of the stuff on it is print and soundcard drivers. go figure.

Jesus is Lord and majestic son of Jehovah god who created all things and is majesty of the Universe. We will all, each and every one of us some day either in the here and now or in the resurrection for judgement, bow the knee to this Jesus, Lord and Christ. According to the Bible which has proved itself, you will sorely regret these blasphemous words about the Lord Jesus, son of the Majesty of the Universe!! I admonish you now in the best interest of you and your future welfare to reconsider blaspheming the holy one sent from Heaven who died an horrible vicarious death for your and my sins.Btw, I tend to agree with your assessment of this idea of assembling unrelated temple things so as to missapply them to something unrelated. Same with the Biblical code stuff. Why go to all the work congering up something that really serves no purpose when all the wonderful prophecies already spelled out in the Bible are so calously ignored.This message has been edited by buzsaw, 06-16-2004 11:35 PM