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Ihategod
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Message 1 of 38 (417101)
08-19-2007 2:12 PM


I propose a topic to discuss how the Mods and Admins purposely stifle debate by not allowing an open dialogue. I would like people to post excerpts of this very thing happening.
Crush the fascism of the nazi-like regime at EvC. I predict only evolutionists (common descent, wizard of oz, etc)will disagree and thus prove my point. Thank you.

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Message 2 of 38 (417102)
08-19-2007 2:16 PM


Thread moved here from the Proposed New Topics forum.

  
Ihategod
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Message 3 of 38 (417106)
08-19-2007 2:34 PM


ill start....
http://EvC Forum: What evidence, when Darwin/Wallace began work made them think of evolution? -->EvC Forum: What evidence, when Darwin/Wallace began work made them think of evolution?
Why did this even start? I was under the impression (by the name of this site, go figure!?) that this was a debate forum for EvC. MageCraft's question shouldn't have been put into biological evolution section it should have been shoved under the rug in a damp hole like this thread I started.

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jar
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Message 4 of 38 (417110)
08-19-2007 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Ihategod
08-19-2007 2:34 PM


Re: ill start....
How is the link you provided an example of "Fascism of a Monopoly"?

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Ihategod
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Message 5 of 38 (417114)
08-19-2007 3:06 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by jar
08-19-2007 2:37 PM


Re: ill start....
It shows the preference given to the Hypothesis of Evolution as opposed to a serious thread of examining the corruptness of EvC Admins and Mods to give special treatments to evolutionists.

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Message 6 of 38 (417116)
08-19-2007 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Ihategod
08-19-2007 3:06 PM


Re: ill start....
It shows the preference given to the Hypothesis of Evolution as opposed to a serious thread of examining the corruptness of EvC Admins and Mods to give special treatments to evolutionists.
If the admins didn't want a serious thread examining their alleged corruption, then this thread wouldn't be here.

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jar
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Message 7 of 38 (417117)
08-19-2007 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Ihategod
08-19-2007 3:06 PM


Wrong yet again.
You claim:
It shows the preference given to the Hypothesis of Evolution as opposed to a serious thread of examining the corruptness of EvC Admins and Mods to give special treatments to evolutionists.
Sorry but as usual, you simply seem to me making unsupported assertions.
For the ease of the readers, here is the content of the link you provided:
Hello, i am taking an Evolutionary science class and need to make a presentation on the following topic,
"What was the evidence that was accumulating when Darwin and Wallace began their work that led them to start thinking about evolution?"
I will be checking this forum regularly and hope some one can help me with this. All replies are greatly appreciated, thank you guys.
The full thread can be found here.
Since this thread is open, and the other message has nothing to do with Fascism or Moderation, continuing to claim "the corruptness of EvC Admins and Mods to give special treatments to evolutionists" appears to be nothing more than you misrepresenting facts yet again.

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molbiogirl
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Message 8 of 38 (417160)
08-19-2007 7:15 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ihategod
08-19-2007 2:12 PM


Open dialogue?
stfu befo' you get smacked-tfu, bish!
Oooooo! He's a charmer, ain't he?
Since you haven't take the time to look at the rules, allow me to highlight a couple for you:
Please stay on topic for a thread. Open a new thread for new topics.
Points should be supported with evidence and/or reasoned argumentation.

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Ihategod
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Message 9 of 38 (417165)
08-19-2007 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by molbiogirl
08-19-2007 7:15 PM


I think you ought to define "kind" for us, vash.
Once we've got that nailed down, you can offer proof of your position.
I rather like your definition ...
birds as things in the sky, and fish as things in the sea, and animals as things on the land
This is from the same thread you quoted me from.
Notice how I had given you a definition, and then you said
I think you ought to define "kind" for us, vash.
and then you quoted my definition in the same paragraph!
You kept telling me to stay on point like your some kind of mod!? While you ignored my point. It was high time someone put you in your place woman even if it was offensive. I could apologize...nah
Since you haven't take the time to look at the rules, allow me to highlight a couple for you:
Please stay on topic for a thread. Open a new thread for new topics.
Points should be supported with evidence and/or reasoned argumentation
Thanks mom. My argument stands on well reasoned argumentation: your not a mod. your not an admin. and your also not on topic which proves my point of special treatment to smart-ass HOE's (hypothesis of evolutioner's) like yourself. Your not going to get a mod in here saying, "you need to be on topic." Why? Well that's why I opened this thread so thank you. Me: 1 You: 0

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Ihategod
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Message 10 of 38 (417168)
08-19-2007 7:50 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by jar
08-19-2007 3:14 PM


Re: Wrong yet again.
Every time, I'm always wrong to a HOE (hypothesis of evolutioner).
My point is well illustrated by your post. Your ignorance shines a light upon my argument, thank you.
There is no reason that post should have made it into the biological evolution section. Unless..., the administration here is either proselytizing or it was an honest mistake. And we all know in our secret heart space that it's the former.
Don't deny the truth. I wanted examples of how this applies and everyone that's posted has been off topic and made argument ad hominem. Yet no Mod to moderate, i'm not surprised.

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Ihategod
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Message 11 of 38 (417169)
08-19-2007 7:57 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by DrJones*
08-19-2007 3:12 PM


Re: ill start....
If the admins didn't want a serious thread examining their alleged corruption, then this thread wouldn't be here.
Think about it. If the admins weren't corrupt, they never would have allowed it. It would sound so ludicris as to not even warrent a thread. But they couldn't have it lingering on the proposed new topics section for young fish to come see, no. they had to move it to the remote reaches of the discussion board so no one would find it. Only those who have commented thus far I suspect are in league with the admins. It all fits together...

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Message 12 of 38 (417170)
08-19-2007 8:06 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Ihategod
08-19-2007 7:57 PM


Re: ill start....
But they couldn't have it lingering on the proposed new topics section for young fish to come see
They wouldn't have to "leave it lingering" they could have just deleted it.
they had to move it to the remote reaches of the discussion board so no one would find it.
All you have to do is click on the "All Topics" link at the top of the page and the topics with the most recent posts pop up. Navigating the interwebs isn't some complicated undertaking. The coffe house forum and your thread are hardly hidden away.
Only those who have commented thus far I suspect are in league with the admins. It all fits together...
You got us it's conspiracy to to keep the creationists down, just ask AdminBuz or AdminNem for confirmation.
edited to add: AdminPhat is in on it too, can't beleive I forgot about him.
Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.
Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.

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Just a monkey in a long line of kings.
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist!
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molbiogirl
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Message 13 of 38 (417171)
08-19-2007 8:10 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Ihategod
08-19-2007 7:44 PM


Notice how I had given you a definition
Seems you have things a bit confused.
The definition I quoted was from another thread.
Since you chose to re-address the issue of "kind" in the appropriate thread, I pointed you to two prior posts and asked that you elaborate, taking into consideration the definitions of "kind" offered by other creos.
You chose to avoid my question and drift off topic not once, not twice, but three times. Both RAZD and I politely pointed to the threads for your off topic remarks and you ... well, let's let your words speak for themselves:
I did woman, learn to speak less and listen more.
btw, by speak I mean type and by listen I mean stfu. jk.
if your trying to trap me with your viperious tongue
What are you dense? Or is that the red tape I have to jump through? I thought this was a debate forum not a p.c. whine fest.
What about the shit I took this morning? Who cares?
You were suspended.
Rightfully so.
How is this "fascism"?

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jar
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Message 14 of 38 (417173)
08-19-2007 8:13 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Ihategod
08-19-2007 7:50 PM


And yet another example of wrong again.
You claim:
There is no reason that post should have made it into the biological evolution section. Unless..., the administration here is either proselytizing or it was an honest mistake. And we all know in our secret heart space that it's the former.
Let's parse your claim.
You seem to think that a question related to Biological Evolution ("What evidence, when Darwin/Wallace began work made them think of evolution?") should not go in the Biological Evolution forum. The possibilities were:
  • The Bible: Accuracy and Inerrancy. Since it has nothing to do with the Bible, that is out.
  • Big Bang and Cosmology: Since it is unrelated to either of those, that forum is out.
  • Dates and Dating: Since it was unrelated to either Dates or Dating, that would not be a good choice.
  • Geology and the Great Flood: Nothing in there related to either Geology or to the Flood.
  • Human Origins and Evolution: Nothing in the OP related to Human Origins so that would not be a reasonable forum.
  • Intelligent Design: Nothing in the opening post related to Intelligent Design.
  • Is It Science? Again, there was nothing related to that issue.
  • Miscellaneous Topics in Creation/Evolution: This is a catch all place for things that do not fit somewhere else.
  • Origin of Life: Questions about Darwin or Evolution have nothing to do with the Origin of life so this forum would be inappropriate.
That leaves Biological Evolution, which since the question does directly deal with Biological Evolution seems a reasonable choice.
If you can make a case for placing it somewhere else, please feel free to try to do so, but it's pretty clear that the placement was certainly reasonable, certainly not proselytizing.
Don't deny the truth. I wanted examples of how this applies and everyone that's posted has been off topic and made argument ad hominem. Yet no Mod to moderate, i'm not surprised.
Can you provide support for your assertion showing where my replies have been off topic or "ad hominem"?

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Message 15 of 38 (417177)
08-19-2007 8:28 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Ihategod
08-19-2007 7:50 PM


Stay on Topic and Maintain Respect
Vashgun,
Please stick to your own topic and follow the forum guidelines.
Your style of discussion is disrespectful. I suggest you drop the HOE accronym since I suspect there is a less than respectful purpose to it.
Note to all participants: Please stick to the topic.
Please direct any comments concerning this Admin msg to the Moderation Thread.
Any response in this thread will receive a 24 hour timeout.
Thank you Purple

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