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Brad McFall
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Message 151 of 300 (180752)
01-26-2005 8:51 AM
Reply to: Message 150 by Saviourmachine
01-26-2005 7:45 AM


RE:ICONic Lingos
Oh, that is easy,,, but then, the statment, is not as rigorous as some of my others.
I think all my troubles, including that of communication, are due to science not recognizing that there is MORE than an analogy between problems in attractions and problems in heat.
If that is true, I am newborn today! I am less enamoured with grammetology than I was before I could have written the above. I have always harbored a question for Husserl as per Derrida but having resolved this physically what was only textual in the past I would not even begin to find the cartouche in the paint these days even if one went more than four times around whatever difference disseminated OF gramme and lexos per Sausarre signals. The mystic writing pad has become a browser. Oh- well! NO post card gets the biology anymore even if it WAS in the back of Oxford Lib.
If you got your icons to work in any language or
http://www.cs.wpi.edu/~nemleem/about.htm
etc. The above personal statement of knoweldge would need to be able represent the following:
quote:
Carnot's cycle applied to occult lines across electrotonic tubes considered as both quasi closed and closed (multiple) chromatographic columns or how to read Newton's electric and elastic Spirit in the holomology of Cantor's applied transifintes for any layer subject to a level of selection thus establishing the link between macro(kinetics and thermodyanmics)(macrokinetics¯othermodyanmics) without deciding on the relation of hierarchical thermodyanmics to Bohrian physics aka (what conditional contraints Cantorian kinematics provides catastrophe theory (Rene Thom magic) with).
The crucial question is how does supramolecular stability cuase biological plurifaction as one scales (works%) across levels of organization irrespective of any extant level of selection.

Proceeding with electrotonic symbols in the differential equations of macrothermodyanmics under cycle of motion where thermal currents act (force) gravity (2nd Newton law) perpetuated by lineage growth and developement(continuity) (causal interaction in the environment of Dakwins' words in filiation with Gould against Creationism).
There was a mistake in thinking that the during reproduction
only one half of the material genetic reality is passed. THAT has only to do with the information not the effect of plurifcation biophysically predetermined (this is not the your stand biological derided determinism) by the dynamic connection of the catastrophe set and the point set properties signed in the class of infinite existence.
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Saviourmachine
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Message 152 of 300 (180867)
01-26-2005 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by Brad McFall
01-26-2005 8:51 AM


Iconic Language
Hi Brad, yes I know VIL. There have been a few attempts to compose an iconic language.
I want to study first the conceptual accuracy, completeness and speed performance of sign language. Maybe that will help me to decide about the survability of an iconic language.

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Brad McFall
Member (Idle past 5060 days)
Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 153 of 300 (180900)
01-26-2005 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by Saviourmachine
01-26-2005 3:57 PM


Re: Iconic Language
Ok, perhaps I misunderstood you.
I had thought you might be interested in turning my posts into such.
I am still trying to find a free audio hosting service if I still misunderstood your comments and you are interested in hearing legally from me.
I have already some files from my court case in Florida available.

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Saviourmachine
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Message 154 of 300 (180929)
01-26-2005 6:24 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by Brad McFall
01-26-2005 5:18 PM


Icons | Audio
Icons
Sorry Brad, I've a long way to go, before I'm able to translate your posts to an iconic language. Besides, I'd rather like to develop some Iconic Editor so you'd be able to 'write' in icons yourself.
Audio
Why do you need an audio hosting service? A normal hosting service with audio-files would suffice, isn't it? Or do you want streaming audio? Here (My website talks) can you try that for free (for a month). And see here (Free Web Hosting Services) for just 'normal' free webhosting (100-150 MB). You need to upload with e.g. SmartFTP or the Secure File Transfer Client.
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Brad McFall
Member (Idle past 5060 days)
Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 155 of 300 (180930)
01-26-2005 6:30 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by Saviourmachine
01-26-2005 6:24 PM


Movie with Bad sound now avail
I got one. I have to change the format.
http://www.videodesk.net/show.aspx?user_key=16555&File=/h...
Ill work on the quality for yous guys
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Ben!
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Message 156 of 300 (181230)
01-28-2005 1:38 AM
Reply to: Message 152 by Saviourmachine
01-26-2005 3:57 PM


Re: Iconic Language
Well.. I'm reluctant to clutter Brad's thread with non-Brad things...
Here's a few thoughts I have about iconic language. I'll not bother to support claim, as that's time-consuming and I don't know if you're interested. So here we go.
1. Every human language has a cultural aspect to it. In fact, I would say it's necessarily so. Cultural and semantic constraints are necessary for the operation of a language. In other words, iconic language is not a human language. I'm not saying that it's not useful, but the ultimate goal (human language) is not attainable at all in my eyes.
2. I'm not sure if you have, but it might be interesting for you to look into symbolic-note-taking done by simultaneous interpreters. The purpose of using symbols rather than language is to avoid language transfer effects.
3. I know a bit about sign language, but not tons. If you're interested in sign language in general, "The Signs of Language" by Klima and Bellugi is the place to start. If you're just interested in the speed, I don't have data. Sign language is really "flexible" in teh following way--speaking signers can speak and sign at the same time. Yet, since spoken language and sign language grammars / word sequences are different, the signing is sequenced based on the spoken language in this case. But it points to efficiency being comparable to that of spoken language. Also, sign-language simultaneous interpreting (from or to sign language) is also done regularly. These are not numbers, but just facts to use in the face of a lack of data (i.e. i don't have any)
4. Dr. Benjamin Bergen at UHawaii wrote an interesting paper on nativization effects in Esperanto. Cool paper. Maybe it might interest you. Maybe you've already read it. It's the only study on Esperanto that I could find.
I'll stop there for now; I gotta get back to my paper...
I'm not trying to flame or to puff my chest, but just to spit out a few opinions as fast as possible and see what interests you. Your thread on biology and behavior is exactly the same thread as I opened her previously. In other words, I think you're interested in a lot of the same things as I am, so I hope we can talk a bit in the future.
If you are interesteed in discussing this matter (iconic language), then I'd suggest to open a thread about it.
Peace,
Ben

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TrueCreation
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Message 157 of 300 (181233)
01-28-2005 1:45 AM
Reply to: Message 155 by Brad McFall
01-26-2005 6:30 PM


Re: Movie with Bad sound now avail
Wow! That was interesting. Almost like receiving an alien message. I would be interested to listen to one of your messages if you could clean up the static--it was difficult to pick out your words.
-Chris

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Message 158 of 300 (181264)
01-28-2005 3:36 AM
Reply to: Message 157 by TrueCreation
01-28-2005 1:45 AM


Re: Movie with Brad sound no avail
TrueCreation observes:
quote:
...it was difficult to pick out your words.
I found it so as well. Perhaps that's why I have no trouble at all believing that it is indeed Brad.

Keep America Safe AND Free!

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coffee_addict
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Joined: 03-29-2004


Message 159 of 300 (181305)
01-28-2005 9:03 AM
Reply to: Message 155 by Brad McFall
01-26-2005 6:30 PM


Re: Movie with Bad sound now avail
Muahahahahahahahaha
Did you get that from SETI?

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Brad McFall
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Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 160 of 300 (181307)
01-28-2005 9:11 AM
Reply to: Message 158 by berberry
01-28-2005 3:36 AM


Re: Movie with Brad sound no avail
I did it quickly to see if i was up on the technology. The tape is actually a copy provided by the District Court of Seminole County in Sanford Fla. But I only have an old cassette recorder. I will try adjusting the volume.
There were 4 different voices in that clip.
First me andmy public defender
THE STATES ATTORNEY interjected
&
The Master spoke determinately at the end.
I said that I had ideas about evolution that I thought would be interesting to people at "univeristy".
Fla's lawyer jumped on the opportunity and asked "what are some of your ideas on evolution?"
The public defender did his defense thing, objecting, and saying that the question was out of the scope"".
The silly Florida attorney said like, "well he talked with a psychiatrist about it so why cant i ask him etc?"
The MASTER allowed the question and dismissed the public defender's objection.
I will put out my answer, the swearing in, and perhaps some incriminating stuff just for fun as we've gone over this ground time and time again here. My father and the doctor also testified.
It was silly because I have never NOT talked with people about my ideas on evolution. So by following this line questions IN BIOLOGY FLORIDA FORGOT that BY LAW it had to proove in this hearing that I was a danger to myself or others. They simply did not and yet I have had to live with this two sided tape all the years since.
So biology indeed, being a supra discipline of both psychiatry and psychology held its academic rung from which the process did not belie the system it was part of.
The last parts of this tape was not me. That is what is clear. Perhaps that is what you heard.
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Brad McFall
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Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 161 of 300 (181325)
01-28-2005 10:08 AM
Reply to: Message 156 by Ben!
01-28-2005 1:38 AM


Re: Iconic Language
Ben, I saw you personal messages but I am going to restrain again opening my email from here, so you will have to wait for a response to them...it is OK to talk about iconic lingos here for I would love to get into a more deconstructive moderation and it is clear to me that SM has that spiviakianisms.
I had this idea that he might have been interested in turning my ideas on this relation of ecology and behavior into GUI simply by the form of his:
Re: Morphological characteristics not exact enough
I've reasons to assume you're an expert, but only a computerized one:
quoting, but not anticipating on content
knowing too much names and dates
incoherent use of language
your database exist for the biggest part out of chemistry facts
writing out every word
taking quotes out of context (although that's almost human)
Would you mind to explain the following things?
what's a Boscovich curve?
what's Cantor's motion?
what's the meaning of that path in this discontinuous space?
what has the existence with infinities of this function to do with complexity?
what has Russel's admittance to do with complexity?
what are you illustrating with the experiment of Bernoulli & Boscovich?
what has assigning of desired properties to atoms to do with intelligent design?
who's Sylas?
what do you mean by dual physical implementations?
...
EvC Forum: Evolution and complexity
It is always this way before one gets on web terms with someone else. I still have not defined the "meaning" of this path in discontinuous space and I DO THINK that icons might segment the strech but for myself I would probably prefer to work on abstracting panbiogeography with hyperlinks (wikizize it)before I attempted to do some interface for my own cognitions. That is how outside of macrothermodyanmics I have thought it possible to relate my ability to think these things and communicate them as well. If heirarchical thermodyanmics IS the relation across the levels than this needs not support from language and can be done wholly by a natural philosophy provided I DO have the space Quetzal recognized I might eventually procure. Some day perhaps,, some day...

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Message 162 of 300 (181383)
01-28-2005 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 160 by Brad McFall
01-28-2005 9:11 AM


Re: Movie with Brad sound no avail
I agree it's difficult to get some analog tapes converted to decent-sounding .wav files. Ironically it all makes more sense since you've explained it. I just thought it was kinda funny since us readers often have difficulty with your posts.
Incidentally, many of your more recent posts are easier to understand. It's apparent that you've been working on it and I for one appreciate it.

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Brad McFall
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From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 163 of 300 (181396)
01-28-2005 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 159 by coffee_addict
01-28-2005 9:03 AM


2nd verse same mov as first,little softer

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Message 164 of 300 (181397)
01-28-2005 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 163 by Brad McFall
01-28-2005 3:02 PM


Re: 2nd verse same mov as first,little softer
That's much clearer, Brad. Is that you talking?

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Brad McFall
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Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 165 of 300 (181400)
01-28-2005 3:21 PM
Reply to: Message 164 by berberry
01-28-2005 3:12 PM


Re: 2nd verse same mov as first,little softer
Yes indeed! I will try some filters next time. All I did was keep the green audio from "cliping".

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