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Brad McFall
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Message 16 of 51 (16075)
08-26-2002 1:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Minnemooseus
08-04-2002 2:04 AM


This is a thought on the substance so treated;
I take my challege rather from Kant than Russel so I quote Kant together:
"I find myself, with my reviewer, in quite another position. He seems not to see at all the real matter of the investigation, with which (successfully or unsuccessfully) I habve been occupied. It is either impatience at thinking out a lengthy work, or vexation at a threatened reform of a science in which he believed he had brought everything to perfection long ago, or, what I am reluctant to suppose, real narrow-mindedness that prevents him from ever carrying his thoughts beyond his scholl metaphysics. In short, he passes impatiently in review a long series of propositions, of which, without knowing their premises, one can comprehend nothing, intersperses here and ther his censure, the reason of which the reader understands just as little as the propositions against which it is directed; and hence [his report] can neither serve the public nor damage me in the judgement of experts. I should, for these reasons, have passed over this judgement altogether, were it not that it may afford me occassion for some explainations which may in some cases save the readers these PROLEGOMENA from a misconception."
I had not expected whatever thruth may be modeled from Maxwell's vorticies given some actuality fro my use of Pascal's triangle (Chinese, QM model used in histogeny, Croizat's central, centric, and internal for any intertia, mass, gravity sorts) that direct quantitative phenotypic measures would compass the actual opposition to another direction that quantum mechanical matter could be moving this orbit but while this may not be communicable at this time, I will attempt to specifiy what is required as it was so kindly expressed that I present my views ( in as little print as possible) rather than trying to turn the governor tighter for any visualization actually of Maxwell's idle wheels. It is entirely possibe that biology does not deserve the full extent of its current seperation from chemistry and physics that is presently being enjoyed.
Right and left keeps Kant's space by three triangles that really could exist but can not as yet be niavely commtted while I prosecute this end of neophenogenesis.
Maxwell thought any conditions oppositie in terms of size this could be expressed as a trait becomes would be dependent on relations to rays of light along a magnetic line bound kinematics but instead of composing the variables this generally I will restrict myself to all external variables on Anuran taxa that are due or will be due to shear between a longitudinal and transverse of sound propagation in the media surrounding an environs of frog, toads and treefrog ribbits no matter the landscape with drawn from Wright's more popular 30's illustration assigned by CU. Some internal from that may affect typanum diameter, relative size to whole soma, time of growth realtive to bone, nervous system innervating structure may be missed in this preliminary green-print (blueprint).
These trajectories would be found to go through locations in population genetics whether falling more for instance to the sun or the earth for the metabolism being reproduced hence the use of group selection in this implementable metrics. Whether with Faraday or Pascal this line need not be a geodesic though the chemistry would still be less organized -genetic if term change in germ are also specifically; to become called for in the calltype boundary of "sonogram hedge hoge space" divisions of sound wave propogation differences in any matter no matter the center of gravity, shear pf Tree Frog on Toads, Toads on Frogs, effect of tadpole emergence of future fecundity, transverse matching of topography due to sound directums, occult limits of material contained ontogenically, for bounding any such conditioned to a south to north direction for reference to sister groups.
The reason that the geodesic is not yet inthis ordered account is that I do not think if this is more or any other than the SIMILARITY (in yields not mere chemical isolatability) of media magnetic or electric or is a property unique to bioloy when when the metric space is topologized properly to any orthoselection for the intergroup/intragroup selection measn being herein proposed for undulations are not always needing to be geometrically Pauling's chemical bond.
Becasue "there would be a loss of energy" by an activity on growth and development and speciation (where these actual shear forces from an external variable effect a norm of rxn genetically) that a tangent could be modelled between Anuran phenetic character geography. Tf there is an inrreversible relation in this physical timing of shear from tree frog to toads to frogs for instance then Gladyshev's Darwinization call in Macrothermodynamics (has angiosperm change been "macroevolution"?) would be bound by the categories of matter that genes could "sort" classifications (man-made) of matter sound propagates differently in. Whether call-types could be expLAINED (sister gourp difference) on this physico-chem b would be tried. thus one would have some measure of migration that magnitude may be be compared to empirical consulatation due to muation as Wright criticized Fisher.
From p20-1 The History of Biology by Erik Nordenskiold
Materialistic theory of the universe
His teacher, Leucippus, seems to have based philosophy on Parmenides' theory of immutability of matter and to have come across....Out of nothing comes nothing; nothing which is can be reduced to nothing. All change is merely an aggregation or seperation of parts. THIS IS N O T THE SAME AS IMMUTABILITY (AN IDEA BEYOND NEWTON'S IMPENETRABILITY) BECASUSE IMMUTABILITY RELIES ON CARDINALS RATHER IN THIS IS THOUGHT SOME ORDINAL COORDINATION.

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Brad McFall
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Message 17 of 51 (16077)
08-26-2002 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by blitz77
08-04-2002 2:10 AM


The idea in ecosystem engineering is to see if sustainable development is not potentially but absolutely possible to get energy from biomass by sophisticated sinks of electromotive sourced reproduced eddies/endemisms beyond fire and heat to where reformations are actually engaged.
The principle of the conservation of energy and or e=mc^2 will be used throughout as species are migrated by ecological incentives (food etc) to form curves that would otherwise trun dissipatively only and yield at most heat that can sustain but not progress the sectors that as one revolve while speciation occurs (multiplication vs splitting).
This is an entropy increase for the system into labs but is also used (to be usable in the enginerrable version) on large scales where ecologies become communities and where forces other than gravity are effective to circulate the matter involved specifically as repulsions as well as attractions bend in the distance economically approached man goes to attain this means of a possible natural science.
Because biological determinism has been a scapegaot for the smartest biologists to date the analytic use of the entire analogy between attraction and heat problems has rather been divided than some quotient of sources and sinks displayed problematically for the student in the subject at school on topic and in passing the editoring duties around to do as list etc....Very practical what I am about but also very not superfluidity of sufficency.

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Message 18 of 51 (16239)
08-29-2002 10:52 AM
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08-04-2002 2:04 AM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by minnemooseus:
[B]Brad seems to put considerable effort into doing his postings.
The question is:
Has anyone here comprehended anything of substance from Brad's messages?[/QUOTE]
Nope.
quote:
Do you (generally) even bother trying to read them anymore?
Nope.

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Brad McFall
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Message 19 of 51 (16243)
08-29-2002 12:02 PM
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08-29-2002 10:52 AM


I can understand this for I have no where shown in fact. What I am doing is reading science in such a way that things such as the behavior of electric fish can be understood on a physical but not reductionist basis. From that basis sometimes I do get beyond the common bounds in the sense I speak from what brains I know that IS NOT REDUCTIONIST sensu stricto. There is plenty of science to support the re-search on mechanisms but to only assume common sense is not enough even fro Kant's kind of "hybrid" which IS HISTORICAL and real yet if you have a narrow conception of evolution as WILL PROVINE in fact has it you may not realize that the evoution and creation i write can in reality be kept seperate. They were never together as Will takes them becasue of WHATEVER MOELECUOAR BIOLLOGY he may DIFF ER from Mayr on, but because this is such a fine point and not a pen etc mystic writing pad etc etc Will was willing to get away with MY MECANICAL REASONING committed to a mental hospital for the same reason that LYnee Abel refuses to speak of the current Dean's removal from office without the transitional time. When privy to inside NY State education information all can loose and I simply got it in NJ from my Grandfather in Fredonia but Will REFUSES to recognize that I had the very stuff he was talking about so he thougt I had to re-cognize what he thought. That was in fact not true. Iwas already a part of the work on evolution that emerges but I denied Boyd's philosophical concept of emergence for I to not hold organicism which Provine coming from the history dept did not have to be exposed in grading to having studied under Lewtonin and simply rather make a cork for biochemsity agrerement. And this is why Shraf may not find the slope to read my work beacue when it comes to Microscopuic opinonation we may in absolute disgaree but the conversation does get this far with Tranquilty and that we now have the haven Croizat doubted we even had the balcony for I think has passed and does exist so S- if you are reading good luck my friend and blessings to you.

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Minnemooseus
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Message 20 of 51 (20804)
10-25-2002 12:59 PM


I just thought I'd give this topic a bump, with a question to Brad.
Brad, could you attempt to post a message, on any subject, in a clear, concise manner? Try cutting out the obscure references etc., and just say something in a language that at least some of us can follow.
Moose

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Brad McFall
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From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 21 of 51 (20947)
10-28-2002 1:55 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Minnemooseus
10-25-2002 12:59 PM


In NEWS AND VIEWS of the current NATURE is an article by Michor and Nowak titled "The good, the bad and the lonely" with the SUBtitle-abstract "In game theory, 'loners' who choose not to participate in fact promote cooperation between players. The dynamics of the game show phase transitions reminiscent of statistical physics."
First of all without even getting to 2nd base with the article it is not really PHYSICALLY possible to say that one has a "reminicence" of a 'phase transition" and have the TRANS anything kinematically be NOT a Part of Stat Phyiscs (if I am correct that Boltzmann NEVER had any idea of using infinite divisibility) provided I explain some thing in the history of science. Starting off a plauible assertion of any creationist this way is likely to have me bumped back to Kansas so rather lets say "dynamics" means "interactivity" and ask still if this still sounds like posting in c/e world whrils? I still think it does.
On ICR's discussion forum board, when it came time for me to acutally say something I was trying to promote the dash in the idea of eco-justice for which this article is not irrelevant to and so from that web site I could likewise have begun to try to intice the other plausible players to promote the continuance of disscuion for any given individual "abduction" in the process but alas I seem to have even out grown this kind of communication.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE RESULT OF c/e INDUCTION is to be able to "switch" to the "best reply dynamics" and that would be true if I, BSM , thought that c/e analogical to game theory. I never did. I allways felt the polerization was a formal debating position (moot) and no more and unfortunately that I have spent the past few years trying to "game" my way through discussions to get people either to play (post) to some useful outcome whether one would recognize this in this article or not I feel I really have used up the kitty store of inductive transference and am moving on to a purely deductive mode. Anne's thinking that I was only speaking to myself pretty much made this to be this way for for the 1hour a day I spend to post in c/e mode is certainly NOT talking only to myself which I do much of the other 23 hours (whether this system is Babylonian or not...).
I really doubt that "repoducing" with cellular automata has much to do with biology UNLESS Medel's Laws appear there phenomenologically as well (as any Darwinism) but THAT idea is pure speculation NO MATTER HOW PLAUSIBLE our little home grown c/e Quilt has become. There is something to be said about "memory" of c/e talk and no doubt I do feel "priveldged" to have a thread named on me but as for others catching on to the same kind of induction I did and still do to some extent before I start only posting out deductions seems unlikely.
I am not sorry that I have moved on from trying to define a common abduction but I guess this is just the way it was (before computer assisted science outsourced any informatic approach to a mental notion between the physicality of science and the microminuturization per information connection existed).
But if you meant me to pick something simple like what I am working on at HOME; that Garteh Nelson of AMNH may have been off the network to assert that Croizat's Tracks were simply uniformed area cladograms, then that at least for me would have been easier to say. (a simple denial would do (have done)).
Dont know if I succeeded with this.

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Message 22 of 51 (20968)
10-28-2002 9:28 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Brad McFall
10-28-2002 1:55 PM


What could have been demonstrated without, let us say, a le sae par or two, is not without relevance or indeed precedence to the matter. As has been shown beyond doubt by Dirac, and is discussed even on the elementary school playground, we could never doubt that A PRIORI the siliconized society has made its contribution to c/e. Regardless, number theory, modulo so-called "induction evidence" has never clarified the role of epsilon in the differntiability of enzyme pathway state-curves.
During my sabatical in the Kremlin it occurred to me that Lord Kelvin may have been correct, at least in passing, when he commented on the extent of correlation between FEASABILTY vs, ipso facto baseball projectile dynamics. Nevertheless my duties restrained these investigations and instead I, whilst also entertaining considerations that Korean antiquities might not be a next stop, was prompted to participate in a collaboration with Kenwick. How polystrate decay entered into this is a subject for another time as my hour is up and Anne is calling.

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Message 23 of 51 (20970)
10-28-2002 9:58 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Minnemooseus
10-25-2002 12:59 PM


quote:
Originally posted by minnemooseus:
I just thought I'd give this topic a bump, with a question to Brad.
Brad, could you attempt to post a message, on any subject, in a clear, concise manner? Try cutting out the obscure references etc., and just say something in a language that at least some of us can follow.
Moose

Moose, let me translate Brad's response at message no 21 for you.
"No."
No need to thank me, just happy to help.
PS. I wonder if Brad/Herp has been banned from Terryworld.

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Message 24 of 51 (20989)
10-29-2002 7:48 AM
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10-28-2002 9:28 PM


Well done! My own contribution to the genre can be found at Message 2 in the Info TransFER DURING Evolution thread.
Remember, Brad, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!
--Percy

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Message 25 of 51 (20997)
10-29-2002 8:56 AM
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10-28-2002 9:28 PM


Wow!
What can one say to that but, wow?
------------------
http://www.hells-handmaiden.com

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Message 26 of 51 (20998)
10-29-2002 8:59 AM
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10-28-2002 9:28 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
What could have been demonstrated without, let us say, a le sae par or two, is not without relevance or indeed precedence to the matter. As has been shown beyond doubt by Dirac, and is discussed even on the elementary school playground, we could never doubt that A PRIORI the siliconized society has made its contribution to c/e. Regardless, number theory, modulo so-called "induction evidence" has never clarified the role of epsilon in the differntiability of enzyme pathway state-curves.
During my sabatical in the Kremlin it occurred to me that Lord Kelvin may have been correct, at least in passing, when he commented on the extent of correlation between FEASABILTY vs, ipso facto baseball projectile dynamics. Nevertheless my duties restrained these investigations and instead I, whilst also entertaining considerations that Korean antiquities might not be a next stop, was prompted to participate in a collaboration with Kenwick. How polystrate decay entered into this is a subject for another time as my hour is up and Anne is calling.

*******************************
LOL!

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Brad McFall
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Message 27 of 51 (21009)
10-29-2002 10:09 AM
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10-28-2002 9:58 PM


WJ- this is the YES one. Ha ah Haaa!
In the review article titled Punctuated equilibrium comes of age NATURE Vol 366 18 Novemeber 1993 Gould and Eldridge authored a piece.
In high school for me, 70-80s, I wrote a paper called "Evolution of evolution, in which I missed this explaination of scaling that not till the 90s did I learn was the economic basis in my own lingo I call g-commerce IS the GIS support software communities rasion de entre having nothing to do with criticizing Creationists for pointing to the TOO fluid use of space and time thought interchange. This was philosophy of science for me and not evolutionary theory but If my reading is correct and that some of Mayr's ideas WERE gained from a diagram of Wright's then in so far as it is permissible to scope out of time to larger numbers representing this time then indeed Gould and Eldgredge probably visualize correctly. I did not understand this in High School and I bet if you asked Carl Zimmer, for him this would simply be a prima facie rejection of any CREATIONSIM which in fact is still in hung jury as AMNH against NZ Panbiogeographers when it comes to figureing in stratigraphy relative (3d for any 1d-2d connection) to overlaps of geography and morphogeny (not geography and topography). Yet depending on if the network is more made of say pentagons than hexagons say again this certianly is criticizable by creationism and likely shows an evolutionist error in software constuction of using not a relative enough disciple and using TWOendemic areas no matter the common ancestral area biogeography for a not creationist idea. out of time more later.

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Brad McFall
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Message 28 of 51 (21010)
10-29-2002 10:11 AM
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10-28-2002 9:58 PM


The ban still had time. No I was never there WJ.

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Brad McFall
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Message 29 of 51 (21017)
10-29-2002 11:14 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Tranquility Base
10-28-2002 9:28 PM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
[B]What could have been demonstrated without, let us say, a le sae par or two, is not without relevance or indeed precedence to the matter. As has been shown beyond doubt by Dirac,[/QUOTE]
[/B].
Yes, yes there is undoubtly a picture standing of Dirac and Feynman but Wolfram in the diagram gives the wink to Fredkin and neither of which is my best guess on the continuity that is PRIOR to the transition where discontinuity with Wolfram or Feynman for and Dirac is involved IN THE MODEL. You and I do not know if some bacteria use quarks to change introns etc and such is better left to the flat land of c/e fiction/talk talking fiction rather than a-working within the contraints of some template for the matter of infinite comparisions; which has not achieved this grammetelogical turn of the lexos naturalistically despite the move to, an emprically a posterirori orgin(for) any DEVIATION from is (by science) a gravational curvature in the thought.
[QUOTE][B]
and is discussed even on the elementary school playground, we could never doubt that A PRIORI [/QUOTE]
[/B]
iT SEEMS to me that use of any a priori philosophy is only needed in the random window from which the choice of a black or white grey level is first picked up on in the dynamics that would be modeled from any electron exvolved where there is a problem in discontinuity brought on and in not by nature but by the scientific tools used in the discovery process of seperation or sorting saying nothing of the literay tradition that enabled mankind to so kindly write back to one another a lone or at home alone. [QUOTE][B]the siliconized society has made its contribution to c/e. Regardless, number theory, modulo so-called "induction evidence" has never clarified the role of epsilon in the diffe[/QUOTE]
[/B]
[Fixed quoting. --Admin]
[This message has been edited by Admin, 10-29-2002]

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Message 30 of 51 (21043)
10-29-2002 5:42 PM
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10-29-2002 7:48 AM


I had considered my episode so contibuted to have been, if not completely, perhaps to some copious degree, inaugural to the domain. As it appears you have scooped my endeavor although the datestamp field, whether Y2K compatible or not, unambiguously elucidates that your installment predated my foundational postings.

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