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Author Topic:   Nuggin V. Randman 2: They Might Be Giants
Nuggin
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Message 1 of 9 (270109)
12-16-2005 4:15 PM


Okay, Game on Randman.
The new topic is giants. And normally the first poster would take the affirmative position, but since I'm too impatient to wait, I'm going to open the post with the negative.
There are not/were not giants. Any and all accounts of "giants" can be explained with a rational evaluation of the accounts/evidence.

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Message 2 of 9 (270113)
12-16-2005 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Nuggin
12-16-2005 4:15 PM


On hold
I think that you may need more content in your message 1.
But first, please see the Proposed New (Great Debate) Topics topic that I have just started.
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Nuggin
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Message 3 of 9 (270129)
12-16-2005 5:44 PM
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12-16-2005 4:37 PM


Re: On hold
Ya, waiting for Randman's pro-giants stance

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Message 4 of 9 (270131)
12-16-2005 5:47 PM
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12-16-2005 5:44 PM


Re: On hold
It might be important to first agree on what a giant is in the first place.

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Nuggin
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Message 5 of 9 (270138)
12-16-2005 5:54 PM
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12-16-2005 5:47 PM


What's a giant?!
I would agree, but since Randman is going to be taking the affirmative, I want to give him a chance to make his statement before we dig down into definitions.

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Message 6 of 9 (270144)
12-16-2005 6:16 PM
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12-16-2005 5:54 PM


Re: What's a giant?!
My stance is there is ample scientific evidence giants existed.
This message has been edited by randman, 12-16-2005 06:25 PM

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Nuggin
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Message 7 of 9 (270162)
12-16-2005 7:10 PM
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12-16-2005 6:16 PM


Hurray!
We have a debate! Let's move this thing to a real thread.

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Nuggin
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Message 8 of 9 (270270)
12-17-2005 4:12 AM
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12-16-2005 6:16 PM


I'll have to get it started I guess
In my view the various accounts of giants can be broken down into a few catagories.
Purely Mythical - simply a legend, think Greek Titans
Mistaken Anatomy - Someone finds the fossil leg bone and skull of a mammoth, they come up with the idea for the Cyclops.
Exageration - Often power and size are equated, so stories about powerful men quickly become stories about big powerful men. There may have been a real Hercules, but he wasn't actually nine feet tall.
Excessive Growth through genetic illness - Robert Wadlow 8'11"
Abnormally Large individual amoung normal population - Shaq
Slightly larger population viewed by smaller population - The 5ft Romans encounter the 6'4" Norse.
This covers all the "normal" giants we'd expect to find. I take it from your post that you would want to include a further group.
Reproducing population of excessively large individuals - numerous people exceeding the current height limitations (say, 8ft+).
I take it from your post above, and on the other thread, that there is physical evidence for this last group.

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12-17-2005 10:21 AM


Thread copied to the Nuggin V. Randman 2: They Might Be Giants thread in the The Great Debate forum, this copy of the thread has been closed.

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