The boasts of atheists

These boasts--I have run across a lot of them and can provide quotes if you like--just will not do.However, it is necessary that we make a distinction. The reason the atheists boast is to show that they can be happy and can be moral without God. Very understandable.But we have to realize what is being said here. Yes, one can be happy and one can be moral, but one will also go to one's long home.It will be, in a hundred years, as if you never existed. You are of no more significance than a roach crawling across the floor.So one must understand that fact thoroughly before one speaks of "happiness" and "exemplary moral character" and the "wonder of life."Except in a practical sense, it will not do to speak of such things as happiness and morality. If one is an atheist one should never speak this way. One should say, "We are products of a mindless universe, accidentally produced. We will live out our lives, and have some pleasures, and grow old, and die." Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.

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"Your friends, if they can, may bury you with some distinction, and set up a monument, to let posterity see that your dust lies under such a stone; and when that is done, all is done. Your place is filled up by another, the world is just in the same state it was, you are blotted out of its sight, and as much forgotten by the world as if you had never belonged to it."--William Law

Well here we go again Robin, with one of your philosophical inquiries into the meaning of life.Maybe I'm not the one to promote this since I usually like your opinions, but I won't until I get some other admin input anyway.I'm sure you can get a good argument going, but I'm not completely sure what your point is yet. What exactly are you saying here?An atheist SHOULDN'T be happy because he is going to stop existing?Atheists are deluding themselves, putting the facts of meaninglessness and death out of their lives and living a sham life or something like that? In other words their boasts are empty bravado? Is that what you mean by "just will not do?"They should, perhaps, be nihilists, if they were honest?But I don't want to get into discussing this with you here. Maybe you can clarify to show how this thread is going to be different from other threads on the subject.Edited by AdminFaith, : No reason given.

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That's it exactly. I think this topic is a little different, a little more direct than before.I'm sick of this boasting on the part of atheists and agnostics about how wonderfully happy they are.It makes me throw up.

Argh, Robin, I can't promote a thread based on your nausea over atheist boasts. If you can't make it into something discussable, there isn't a thread here.Edited by AdminFaith, : No reason given.

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Good call, Faith.I agree. A thread based on nausea is not very healthy.
(Sorry, couldn't resist)Carry On

I feel it is important not to make one's fellow posters sick.

This is the type of comment I'm talking about:

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"Your friends, if they can, may bury you with some distinction, and set up a monument, to let posterity see that your dust lies under such a stone; and when that is done, all is done. Your place is filled up by another, the world is just in the same state it was, you are blotted out of its sight, and as much forgotten by the world as if you had never belonged to it."--William Law

And then there's a different type of boasting: This is supposed to indicate how wonderfully energetic this person is.

replied.forgot where I was.then I deleted Edited by AdminSchraf, : No reason given.

how about coffee house?

Yeah.

Schraf seemed to be saying she was going to promote this but then didn't.OK. Here's the ultimatum. Convince me this isn't just an excuse for personal attacks on other posters. "Boasts" certainly sounds like that's what you mean to do.But if you can rewrite your OP to show that you really intend to discuss what you see as the logical and reasonable implications of atheism, then I will seriously consider promoting it --unless other admins think it's a bad idea.Oh, you also need to make it clear what you mean by the vague phrase "it will not do."

ALL posts are, in a sense, an "attack," but this is not meant personally. But I am annoyed with the comments from various posters about how wonderful they are. They can't be THAT wonderful.I know what their point is. They are wonderful without God, etc., but I am annoyed by their attitude. It's an 18th century phrase: "No, Sir, this will not do."I mean it's not logically consistent. I love the 18th century.

Thread moved to Coffee Houseas "The boasts of atheists (Atheist self-deception).Now I'm going to try figure out how to close this thread.AdminFaith.Edited by AdminFaith, : No reason given.

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