How many sons does God have?

The Pharisees of Jesus day did not believe Jesus was the messiah and when He said my Father and I are one they accused Jesus of blasphemy. So they denied the deity of Jesus.If Jesus were to return today: The only difference Sunday would bring is there would be a few pastors, and a few members missing.The Majority of Modern Christianity are not the sons of God even though they claim to be. I would say 96% have not experienced the spiritual birth that Jesus said: "ye must be born again" to get. Everyone is not the sons of God.
Jesus is going to say: "I never knew you".I think that means, you were never my brother, therefore you were never a son of God.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Every day in every way we are born again. It is not some spiritual voodoo, it is what we do.Being born again has nothing to do with what you believe, what you profess. Being Born again, and again, and again, is a daily, moment by moment series of decisions, of actions. I don't doubt that is what you believe, but it is certainly not supported by the text. Being a Child of God is not based on beliefs, but rather actions, behavior.In Matthew 25 it is Jesus followers, would be Christians, that are the Goats.

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jar you have quoted these scriptures several times in this thread and they have nothing to do with the assertion you are making that
everyone is the son of God.I assume you are referencing verse 3 and saying that God is continually creating humans at the rate of 250 live births and 87 aborted births per minute, and stating all these are sons of God. God ended His work.God created 2 humans in His image. From that time until now man has created offspring in mans image.Therefore everyone is not the son of God.Edited by ICANT, : No reason given.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Exactly.The prodigal son was his father's son - he didn't "become" his father's son when he repented. From birth, he was always his father's son. What does spiritual birth have to do with being adopted by a different father?

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You receive the adoption by the birth from above which is the spiritual birth Jesus was talking about.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Sorry ICANT but that is not what either the Bible or Christian Tenets say.I quoted John for you.I can also point to the Nicene Creed, the "I believes", where it says: We are all Sons of God, created by God. Trotting in yet more irrelevant nonsense as usual, I see. I assume you can point to where I brought up abortion.So you are claiming that "God ended His work."If so, then God too is irrelevant, unimportant and worthless.Interesting God you created there ICANT.Even you, ICANT, are a Child of God.

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That makes no sense. Birth has nothing to do with adoption. Spiritual rebirth is about what happens to the person. It has nothing to do with the father.

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That's incorrect. The Greek word is monogene which is literally translated only begotten. This word begotten according to Wikipedia dictionary is derived from beget which again acording to Wikipedia means to father or to sire.So Jesus is the only geneologically born son of God. The NIV translators removed replaced that word by one and only which missrepresents what the manuscripts actually say.According to Job 1 and a couple of other texts there were other sons of God which were not begotten/fathered/sired by God's Holy Spirit as was Jesus. These were entities, some of which had access to God's realm of locality and others which as Nemesiss has explained called the Nephilim, likely having been created in a unique manner so as to be above other creatures.All humans are procreated creatures, procreated from Adam who was formed and designed from the elements of earth dust as per the Genesis record. Jar is mistaken in claiming that all humans are sons of God. There is absolutely no Biblical support for this claim.As has aleady been correctly stated and documented by scriptural text, in order for procreated flesly mortal humans to become sons of God there must be a spiritual birth i.e. Greek genethe from above i.e. Greek anothen. John 3:3.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.

Here is what John 3:3 actually says. Please point to the words "Son of God" in John 3:3.Buz, do any of you Biblical Christians actually read the Bible?

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You are talking works here which has nothing to do with being born again.Works will never make anyone a son of God. Nicodemus in John chapter 3 did all the things you are talking about doing but Jesus told him he had to be born again.To be a son of God you must be born again.
You were born into your earthly family.
To be in God's family you have to be born the second time by the Holy Spirit. The Spiritual birth Jesus told Nicodemus he had to have.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Being born again is not some onetime thing. It is something you do, that you do daily, minute by minute, action by action.Works don't earn salvation, that has been freely given to all, believer and non-believer. It is a done deal and totally irrelevant to being a "Son of God".BUT...We are charged to try to do what is right, try not to do what is wrong, to honestly evaluate our actions and acknowledge when we have done wrong, try to make amends and try not to repeat past mistakes.We WILL be judged on that.I have posted both passages from the Bible and from the Nicene Creed showing that GOD is the creator of all that is, seen and unseen.God created us. We are his sons.My position is pretty well documented in this and other threads. The audience can read and come to their own conclusions.

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jar you asked buz to point out "Son of God" in John 3:3.If you will point out "Son of God" in John 1:1,2,3 I will be happy to point it out in John 3:3. I can't speak for Buz, But yes this Bibilcal child of the King reads the King's book.By saying you Bibical Christians does that mean you are some other kind of Christian?

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Would you please tell me what is relevant to being a "Son of God"?

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

God created the man and woman in Genesis 1:26, 27.If I understand biology man and woman mate if the woman has dropped and egg and it gets fertilized by the male sperm a human being is formed from this union.Now is we are all sons of God does He supply the sperm or the egg, or both and humans have nothing to do with it?

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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To be a son of God you must be born again.

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Being born again is not some onetime thing. It is something you do, that you do daily, minute by minute, action by action.

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This minute by minute view is not supported by the text in question (Jn 3). Consider:
1) the verb "born again" (gennao) in vv. 3, 7 is in the aorist tense, not the present. This means that the author views it as an event, not a continuous occurrance.
2) in v. 4 Nicodemus understood this to be an event, a second birth from his mother's womb.
3) in v. 5 Jesus again used "gennao" in the aorist tense.If this were something that should be done minute by minute, it would be in the present tense rather than the aorist. John clearly did not mean it to be understood this way. His grammar and context rule out this interpretation. The text presents the new birth as an event which is necessary for entry into God's kingdom.Edited by kbertsche, : clarification