Faith now has her own forum (pertaining to evcforum.net topics)

He who pays the light bill makes the rules!

Admin writes:Hi Faith,You don't like what I said about your approach to discussion, and I don't think much of posturing and indignation as rebuttal, so we're even. If you want to be treated like an adult then begin acting like one. See if you can stick with an actual discussion for a change, without characterizing replies as "maddening", or the ever popular "You are all so infuriating." See this discussion through to the end, contribute constructively throughout, and thereby prove my criticism completely wrong. So far you're just proving my point.Let's make the steps even smaller and see if we can find some common ground. What did you mean when you said this in Message 1: What part of my Message 144 "defines creationism out of existence"? Weren't you referring to the parts about science's focus on the natural world?--Percy

AdminFaith writes:You will not talk to me like that if you want to have a discussion with me.

Admin writes: What you're doing is what you always do. As serious examination of your position draws increasingly difficult to avoid, you sabotage discussion by finding an excuse to get up on your high horse and ride off in a huff, or your other favored alternative, disintegrating into an excoriation of all and sundry that brings discussion to a halt as the moderators have to take over. Go ahead, Faith, prove me wrong.There's another choice available to you. You could contribute constructively to the discussion. This is a simple question, please help move the discussion forward by addressing it: What part of my Message 144 "defines creationism out of existence"? Weren't you referring to the parts about science's focus on the natural world?--Percy

AdminFaith writes:You will apologize for your personal comments in posts #178, #191, and #193. You will rescind them, you will promise not to say such things again, and THEN we will have a discussion, and not otherwise. The problem is not me complaining about abusive treatment, Percy, it is the abusive treatment itself, in this case your unbelievably rude and abusive way of dealing with me and others such as Buz.And contrary to your snide analysis of my motives, I do want to have this discussion, but I refuse to submit to this kind of treatment from you.

AdminFaith writes:To show that I am very willing to continue this discussion, I am starting a new thread which AdminWounded so wisely suggested is needed.
Some of the discussion already underway can be brought over here or at least linked to. It starts at Message 169 and runs to Message 195.Although I'm very willing to have this discussion, as I said on the other thread, I will only have it on the terms I gave in the above message 195: As soon as the above conditions are met by Percy, I will answer his question in his post 191, repeated in 193:

Admin writes:Hi Faith,Following is the text of my last message from the thread where we were off-topic, Message 193. Sorry you don't like the image in the mirror I'm holding up, but changing it is under your control, not mine. I predicted that you would get up on your high horse and ride off into the sunset, and that's just what you're doing. If you find it insulting to have your behavior accurately described then I suggest you stop behaving that way.I'm sure that around your dinner table it's considered rude to mention Ole Aunt Faith's problems with self control, but this isn't your dinner table. This is EvC Forum, and I'm the lead moderator responsible for insuring, among other things, that EvC Forum remains a premier discussion site for issues related to the creation/evolution debate. I see your participation in the science forums as a significant obstacle to that goal. If you would like to discuss this then I suggest you pick up the thread of the discussion by addressing the question I raise at the end.--Percy

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What you're doing is what you always do. As serious examination of your position becomes increasingly difficult to avoid, you sabotage discussion by finding an excuse to get up on your high horse and ride off in a huff, or your other favored alternative, disintegrating into an excoriation of all and sundry that brings discussion to a halt as the moderators have to take over. Go ahead, Faith, prove me wrong.There's another choice available to you. You could contribute constructively to the discussion. This is a simple question, please help move the discussion forward by addressing it: What part of my Message 144 "defines creationism out of existence"? Weren't you referring to the parts about science's focus on the natural world?--Percy

AdminFaith writes:So be it. Buh bye.
Oh and if you ever recognize your disgusting error, your message #6 is now to be added to the list of those to be apologized for.I'm not holding my breath.

As far as Faith returning, I have no objection, but I will say I'll move rather quickly if the kinds of problems she tends to cause resurface.