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Bolder-dash
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Message 211 of 355 (617844)
05-31-2011 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 209 by ZenMonkey
05-31-2011 2:04 PM


Please take your whining to another forum
Percy has given his solemn word that he will always support posters asking for evidence when the claimants are being evasive.
I know its times like this when your side really needs Dr. A. He is perfect for saying something totally meaningless and so utterly boorish to read that its good for a temporary diversionary tactic. He can actually cause people's brain to freeze for a while as they try to comprehend what they just saw.
Are you the best they have for this right now monkey?
Dam, where is Dr. A??

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ZenMonkey
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Message 212 of 355 (617847)
05-31-2011 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 211 by Bolder-dash
05-31-2011 2:10 PM


Re: Please take your whining to another forum
Bolder-dash writes:
Percy has given his solemn word that he will always support posters asking for evidence when the claimants are being evasive.
I know its times like this when your side really needs Dr. A. He is perfect for saying something totally meaningless and so utterly boorish to read that its good for a temporary diversionary tactic. He can actually cause people's brain to freeze for a while as they try to comprehend what they just saw.
Are you the best they have for this right now monkey?
Dam, where is Dr. A??
You're off topic. The discussion here is about possible reasons for a decline in the number of creationists participating in this forum.
The "Best" evidence for evolution. thread is still open, if you'd care to pick up the discussion there. There are also quite a few other open threads in the Biological Evolution forum that deal with specific lines of evidence that support evolutionary theory. Your question would be much more appropriately discussed there.

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Bolder-dash
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Message 213 of 355 (617848)
05-31-2011 2:15 PM


Do you all need a time out?
Look if you need a time out its fine. Its what most good coaches would do at a time like this.
Give yourself time to take a breath, to rethink your strategy. Maybe figure out how you can stall the clock a little. Maybe you can private message each other to come up with some new line of defense? Take your time. Something will come to you.

crashfrog
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Message 214 of 355 (617849)
05-31-2011 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 198 by Bolder-dash
05-31-2011 1:00 PM


Re: Ok, I'll give my opinion ...
I am just trying to be fair to you-because if I cross off your evidence right away, I don't see how you can argue with any credibility on the topic on evolution when your only piece of evidence you were willing to provide has been debunked.
If you can genuinely debunk this single piece of evidence I've produced I'll become a creationist again.
No, seriously. I'm aware of an enormous boatload of evidence for evolution but what I've given you is the best example that I know, and if you can disprove it somehow it strikes at the very core of the science of evolution. I'd have to look at everything else with suspicion.
Understand, however, that I don't consider "debunked" synonymous with "didn't convince Boulder-dash." Frankly, it's likely you won't be able to understand the argument put forth.

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Percy
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Message 215 of 355 (617850)
05-31-2011 2:18 PM
Reply to: Message 206 by Bolder-dash
05-31-2011 1:42 PM


Re: Ok, I'll give my opinion ...
Hi Bolder-dash,
Most members are aware that EvC Forum tries to keep discussions on topic. While minor divergences of topic are normal and expected, now that you want to focus on some specific evidences for evolution it would be better to take the discussion to other more appropriate threads.
Regarding the suggestions from Panda, here are threads discussing those topics:
Or you can propose your own threads over at Proposed New Topics.
--Percy

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Bolder-dash
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Message 216 of 355 (617852)
05-31-2011 2:22 PM
Reply to: Message 214 by crashfrog
05-31-2011 2:16 PM


I know its not easy crash
I realize I probably set the bar a little high for you when I asked for 4. You know I was thinking of making it just two, but in respect for anglagards autism I decided to go with 4.
Anyway, there is still time left. You can probably think of something that sounds a little convincing. Maybe just reword your original idea so it sounds like something new. That's what most creationists do.
But don't worry, I will get to your little convergence problem, after you have had a little more time to try to come up with something better first.

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Bolder-dash
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Message 217 of 355 (617855)
05-31-2011 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 215 by Percy
05-31-2011 2:18 PM


Percy is raising the distress flag
Thankfully however I get to ignore you, because you are posting as Percy and not admin now. Whew!
You can let me know if you want to surrender though. No need to go through all the formalities of changing your avatar and making it look like some necessary administrative action. You can just say you give up. You surrender. You throw in the towel on behalf of all of your struggling brethren. Its not that hard.
You are still sticking by your word though right, about demanding evidence from evasive posters? You are a man or you word right, Admin, er I mean Percy?

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fearandloathing
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Message 218 of 355 (617861)
05-31-2011 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 215 by Percy
05-31-2011 2:18 PM


Re: Ok, I'll give my opinion ...
Is this topic now being inhabited by a Troll?? Sort of sounds like it, jmo

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Huntard
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Message 219 of 355 (617865)
05-31-2011 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 206 by Bolder-dash
05-31-2011 1:42 PM


Re: Ok, I'll give my opinion ...
Bolder-dash writes:
So Huntard, would you like to choose 4 or is it hard for you too?
It probably isn't hard for most people on this site, but since it is off-topic here, I shan't be giving you any. If you want to continue your childish whining, go right ahead, you're scoring points right and left here. They are however, not points for your side. You've got some examples, I suggest you start "debunking" them.

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Taq
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Message 220 of 355 (617866)
05-31-2011 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 188 by Bolder-dash
05-31-2011 12:18 PM


Re: Ok, I'll give my opinion ...
What in the world makes you think that Behe offers incredulity as his evidence for what is wrong with evolutionary theory.
When he offers his personal incredulity to write off the chances of an indirect pathway for IC systems.
But since you feel the ToE is so science based, and simply a reading of the facts, please give 3 or 4 of your favorite examples of evidence for the ToE.
And the goalposts are shifted once again. This is exactly what I am talking about. ID/creationism has to stand on its own, but at the mere hint of criticism the argument shifts to attacks on the theory of evolution. If evolution is non-scientific it doesn't make ID/creationism scientific.

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Percy
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Message 221 of 355 (617867)
05-31-2011 2:54 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by Bolder-dash
05-31-2011 2:32 PM


Re: Percy is raising the distress flag
Bolder-dash writes:
No need to go through all the formalities of changing your avatar and making it look like some necessary administrative action.
Moderators at EvC Forum each have two linked accounts. One is a normal account, the other is an administrative account providing the necessary permissions for moderator actions. The linking of the two accounts means that moderators don't have to log in and out of their two accounts as they switch back and forth between normal participation and administrative duties. Radio buttons that are only present for those with linked accounts allow selection of the appropriate account.
--Percy
Edited by Percy, : Add sig.

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Huntard
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Message 222 of 355 (617868)
05-31-2011 2:54 PM
Reply to: Message 207 by Bolder-dash
05-31-2011 1:44 PM


Re: This is the whole point of the bullshit.
Bolder-dash writes:
Huntard, if you have complaints, please take it to the appropriate forum for whining, or else stuff it up your bum kindly.
I have no complaints. If someone wants to act like a child, it is no concern of mine. I tried pointing you in the right direction, but you seem determined to just try and piss people off.
I do not intend to stop such behaviour, because frankly, it just makes you look like a douche, and the sympathy of lurkers almost never lies with the douche.

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Bolder-dash
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Message 223 of 355 (617870)
05-31-2011 2:56 PM
Reply to: Message 218 by fearandloathing
05-31-2011 2:40 PM


Dr. A Impersonators
Look if you are going to come on here trying to play the spoiler role of Dr. A you are gong to have to come up with something a lot more annoying and excessively wordy than this.
For instance, the real Dr. A would have said:
To summarize,
* You don't know what you talking about, but I believe it has something to do with God and creation and mind control of our children
* You a troll of the highest order and you can't be bothered to read a book.
* It is not the moderators fault that none of these brilliant evolutionists can come up with even a facsimile of a shred of evidence for our theory-but it nonetheless does not diminish for a fractitude the overwhelming plaxmity of our verisimilitude.
* Nananana..you have kudies.
You really need to work on your Dr. A. And the smiley face, are you kidding me. can you be more obvious?

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Taq
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Message 224 of 355 (617872)
05-31-2011 2:58 PM
Reply to: Message 200 by Bolder-dash
05-31-2011 1:02 PM


I will give you all plenty of time, so you can be sure to come up with your personal all-star 4. I want you all to make sure you choose your best.
You started this thread to complain about bias that you perceive on this website. It was mentioned to you that moderators have had to step in because you drag things off topic. Guess what you are doing with this post? Dragging things off topic.
There are plenty of threads open that deal with positive evidence for evolution. There are plenty of threads open that ask for evidence supporting creationism with little input from creationists. Pick one. No one is stopping you.

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Bolder-dash
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Message 225 of 355 (617874)
05-31-2011 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 222 by Huntard
05-31-2011 2:54 PM


Re: This is the whole point of the bullshit.
I think you have some spelling mistakes here.
The correct phrase is " I give up. I can't think of any evidence. I completely surrender."
Nevermind, feel free to use whatever spelling you like. I got your point.

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