Who hurts the US Healthcare system worse?

While I get this question, I am looking more at how it will be in the future, so for this I think it is important that we look at the diseases that obesity is said to cause and what is being done to be able to heal these diseases.According to the website Top 10 Obesity-Related Diseases some of the main diseases that afflict the obese community are heart disease, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes, and cancer.So, what is being done in the medical community to work on these diseases.Well let's start with heart disease, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol. One of the main causes of death that these three diseases lead to is heart attack. However, when we look at the studies, more individuals are surviving from heart attacks. According to the article below, a study in the Journal of the American Medical Association shows that in 1995 14.6% of patients died in the hospital within thirty days of being admitted for a heart attack. In 2006, this number was down to 10%. Also, the general health of these patients was worse in 2006 than in 1995, so the main reason is being touted as hospitals are getting better at treating heart attacks. Heart Attack Survival Rates RiseAnother thing to realize is that with the current stem cell research leaps and bounds are being made toward healing the scarring caused by a first heart attack. Originally, only stem cells from the patient were used but these take years to grow and cannot be relied upon to help in the moment. However a recent study has show that donor stem cells are equally as beneficial toward healing heart scarring. According to Dr. Joshua Hare, "we saw a 33 percent reduction in scar tissue in both [the donor and self-sourced] groups." This reduction in scarring also allowed the patients hearts to reduce inflammation and all patients showed benfits during the six minute walk test that was performed. The study is still in an early stage, but could go a long way to reduce repeated heart attacks. Stem Cells from Donors May Help Heal HeartNow, we move onto Diabetes. We know that there are far more factors than simply obesity that result in an individual being diabetic, but is there hope for the future of these individuals?Another Stem Cell study that is currently going on is located in New Zealand. According to Dr. Turner, who is involved in the study, "a Chinese-American study, published earlier this year, proved stem cells could be used to help turn off aggressive auto-immune responses." The study he is discussing attempted to use stem cells to suppress the aggressive auto-immune responses. In twelve weeks during the study, every patient involved was making insulin at higher amounts than they were previously. Stem Cell Study Holds Diabetes Cure PromiseFinally the big C, cancer. I am not sure how obesity makes individuals more prone to cancer, I was always under the impression that we are all at risk of this disease equally, but according to the website about the top 10 diseases, this is on the list. So, what is being researched about curing cancer at this time. There is one interesting study coming out of Sweden that we could look into.According to this report, Professor Magnus Essand has found a virus, named adenovirus serotype 5, that is able to attack cancer when endogenous viral promoter sequence is replaced. This virus has shown positive results in attacking and removing tumours in lab mice. The problem with this study is a lack of funding and so it has not been able to move beyond the animal testing at this time. However, seeing the advances in medical tech in the past twenty years, I assume that advances will be coming our way. A virus that kills cancer: The cure thats waiting in the coldI agree that currently the health care costs are less for the obese because of premature death. However, if these cures/treatments continue to move forward, there does seem to be a likelihood that we will begin to be able to keep those who are obese alive into older ages. Heart attack survival rates are up and curing scarring can possibly lessen the chance of a repeated occurance. Unless the person does not change lifestyle. So, imagine a world where an obese individual has a heart attack and arrives at the hospital, he or she survives and then the doctors use stem cells to reduce the swelling and inflammation. This individual feels healthy and decides to continue the lifestyle and eventually suffers another heart attack. Now, currently in this scenario, with the scarring on the heart from the first heart attack, this obese individual is prone to have a much fiercer heart attack and the heart is already damaged. This will most likely result in death. However, if the heart is fully healthy again, there is a much better chance of the individual surviving another heart attack...So I do think that we will see higher medical bills for the obese in the future because of our ability to increase that which we can cure.However, I think that it will just be an addition to the healthcare costs of the elderly and we will just increase the percentage of healthcare spent on that segment of the population.Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Reset "signature" to what I edited it to (small font, space between quotes, and other minor tweaks).

No doubt our system sucks.I'm not convined that there are not additional (future) costs to an overly obese population other than that immediate 10% increase. Especially if people continue on getting fatter. Being fat now might cause you problems later that aren't immidiately realized in a direct cost increase today.

Consider that Wlefare families are covered by Medicaid and that fat kids abound in Single Mother Families.They also get free drugs.The cost of Welfare is now $1 trillion dollars a year, more that the whole Military Budget.The enemy within is destroying us financially and reducing our ability to fend of foreign invaders, like Islam and N. Korea, and China.Immorality especially sexual is the problem.

meh... not worth it.Edited by Eli, : No reason given.

Who hurts the US Healthcare system worse than "the system of things," the Liberal adolescent-sex-promoting culture itself which encourages the ever increasing Single Mothers?If an irreligious blasphemimg adult population mocks the recommended prudence of the churches who try to make pre-marital sex a shame, divorce impossible, and early marriage the alternative to 14 years of irresponsible sexual behavior for the next generation, isn't ot you guys who bash the Bibke that is worse than any other group.Edited by kofh2u, : No reason given.

Tsk tsk, what is the world coming to? Next thing you know you will feeding the hungry with no identifiable return on investment.

.... WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY,... yep, that is the grand plan.The question is whether the policies of a government taking other people's money rather than the Church collecting free will donations has been a good change or bad change in regard to Charity.Could 50% of all the babies born in 2011 be illegitimate and fatherless under the previous system?Does the FACT that children raised by Single Mothers commit 70% of all violent crime and most of all the other social problems mean America is incubating trouble that could double immediately if Abortions stopped, since we also kill 1/3 of the potential Welfare babies?Does it make sense that the inner cities in America are now so dangerous Americans can not enter them for the most part during the day, except down town???Does the liberal refuse to see a bad plan when it is a cancer about to kill the nation? Don't we need more christianity, "I am the truth,"....?

nopeEdited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

If government buildings were gilded with gold in the same way that church buildings are, what would you say about it? Have you seen the Vatican?We tried the charity route during the Great Depression. It failed miserably. It was only through government intervention that people were saved from starvation, and the only way they found work through WPA programs. While people were starving the church was dusting their guilded halls. The cancer within the healthcare system is a for profit system that seeks profits over the financial future of citizens. About half of all bankruptcies are due to medical bills. We pay twice what other socialist countries pay for healthcare.

Other socialist countries are much more liberal than the US, and yet their healthcare costs are half of what ours is and violence is much lower, all with less religiosity than the US.Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

The propaganda since 1933 is knee deep.Read some current histories that question all praise for FDR programs.What really happened is just a duplication of 2008-2012.The media and politician made certain that every potential consumer was too scared to spend money he had.
They put it under their bed, instead.Taxing and spending does not increase the size of the business community, because the taxes that are collected from one person who would have spent that money otherwise, goes to someone else the government hires who spends it instead.But the net Consumer Spending is unchanged.Unless the Consumer Spending goes up, no jobs will come on line.
What FDR did was provoke Japan into starting something so the War would suck unemployed workers out of the job market, and created weapons and military demand along with rationing and deprivation.If the Japanese hadn't bombed us into economic expansion, FDR would have run out of borrowing and other people's money.

Really...Like the PIIGS of Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, and Spain???

I suppose in your universe Germany and Sweden make crap cars, France makes terrible cuisine, the UK has outrageous college tuition and Switzerland can't tell time.And Canada has a lower standard of living.All of these nations provide universal health care for half of what it costs per individual in the USA. Why?I have a saying I apply to myself and others that I have found it to be one of the most useful things in my life.If there is a problem you have trouble fixing, find someone who knows what they are doing and do what they do.It's amazing how many people, individually and collectively refuse to heed such important advice due to hubris. Edited by anglagard, : extra 'one'

....and don't forget: "People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn’t have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless."
http://www.librarygrape.com/...-not-killed-by-uk-health.htmlkofh2u has never been one to let facts get in the way of his opinions.

Give us the number of one thread where you liberal minded self assured Politically Correct progressives here have allowed me to get away with an opinion unsupported by facts in the same post.