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Mission for Truth
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Message 1 of 84 (137999)
08-30-2004 12:59 AM


I don't know about you other people but I am completely facinated with the varing degrees of human intelligence, from retarded to the most gifted of geniuses. I'm planning to major in neuroscience which I think could maybe lead into a medical degree or are there any areas that I could study that may focus on intelligence?
When I'm not trying to study why and how we think I love to observe and read about geniuses. Does anyone know any good sites where there are predominantly brilliant people? Not that the majority of EvC "goers" doesn't hold up hehe. I would just like to find (for my own sheer curiousity) what makes the difference between someone with 200 IQ and someone with the average or possibly above average.
So you can guess I love to do intelligence tests for fun (mostly) does anyone know where I can do the best of the free online tests?

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Message 2 of 84 (138000)
08-30-2004 1:00 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Mission for Truth
08-30-2004 12:59 AM


I may sound like a geek I know but I assure you I'm cool.

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Message 3 of 84 (138403)
08-31-2004 10:45 AM


....ohh, not another thread that doesn't get touched at all! Isn't ANYONE interested in intelligence?

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Message 4 of 84 (138404)
08-31-2004 10:52 AM
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08-31-2004 10:45 AM


Varying levels of human intelligence is what made my dad into an evilutionist. He reasoned that there are just too many stupid people for the story of genesis to be completely true.

The Laminator
We are the bog. Resistance is voltage over current.
For goodness's sake, please vote Democrat this November!

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Message 5 of 84 (138410)
08-31-2004 11:04 AM
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08-31-2004 10:52 AM


I would love to see an honest intelligence test score comparison of christians and non-believers in a large population.

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1.61803
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Message 6 of 84 (138412)
08-31-2004 11:13 AM
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08-30-2004 12:59 AM


"what makes the difference between someone with 200 IQ and someone with the average or possible above average."
A combination of genetics and environmental conditioning.
I would expect.
Just remember high IQ is not a predicter of sucess there are many idiots out there with IQ on the far right of the bell curve who do not have a lick of common sense. LOL

"One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche

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Message 7 of 84 (138414)
08-31-2004 11:16 AM
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08-31-2004 11:13 AM


Just remember high IQ is not a predicter of sucess there are many idiots out there with IQ on the far right of the bell curve who do not have a lick of common sense.
IQ is a predictor of success, at least finnacial success - IQ correlates well with income.

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1.61803
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Message 8 of 84 (138424)
08-31-2004 11:22 AM
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08-31-2004 11:16 AM


Your right IQ correlates with financial sucess, and low income correlates with toothloss... My point was just because someone has a high IQ does not mean they will be a sucess. Sometimes it is not what you know but Who you know. *typo edit
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"One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche

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Message 9 of 84 (138431)
08-31-2004 11:29 AM
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08-30-2004 12:59 AM


I would just like to find (for my own sheer curiousity) what makes the difference between someone with 200 IQ and someone with the average or possibly above average.
As far as I know, it's just an ability to see patterns that much faster.
I don't believe that IQ measures anything but one's level of education; when Binet came up with the IQ test, it was to measure the success of educating children, not to measure some kind of ingrained, immutable mental ability.
People with high IQ's can come to the same stupid decisions as people with low IQ's; generally, it's just that they come to the decision faster.

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Message 10 of 84 (138432)
08-31-2004 11:29 AM
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08-31-2004 11:22 AM


quote:
Sometimes it is not what you know but Who you know.
Yes. But someone with a score on the far right of the bell curve will usually have ideas about success (if they care about success) and generally the smarter people will have better plans I would think.

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Message 11 of 84 (138436)
08-31-2004 11:36 AM
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08-31-2004 11:29 AM


Saying someone is smarter really depends on so many factors, I knew a brilliant pulmonary doc who could not put the screws of his daughters new tap shoes on with a screwdriver. I did it for him. It did not take a Phd to do it.
Some people are mechanically inclined some are not. Some people have better memorys the list goes on and on. Smart is dependant of environment and circumstances at times IMO.
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"One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche

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Message 12 of 84 (138441)
08-31-2004 11:39 AM
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08-31-2004 11:29 AM


I agree with you Crash. Mensa members are capable of doing stupid shit too. LOL

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Message 13 of 84 (138442)
08-31-2004 11:41 AM
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08-31-2004 11:39 AM


Mensa maybe, but what about the people that are "smarter" then nearly the entire population of humans?

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Message 14 of 84 (138446)
08-31-2004 11:44 AM
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08-31-2004 11:41 AM


Obviously they are a rarity but they are there. And surely not perfect as well, but, the intelligence is facinating, how are they different? For example why was Einstein different intellectually? What about Newton or DaVinci? Socrates? Plato? How do they compare with the people of trailer park boys?
That difference is what intelligence is.

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1.61803
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Message 15 of 84 (138448)
08-31-2004 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Mission for Truth
08-31-2004 11:41 AM


Mission for Truth, I am not sure what you mean about your last post. I admit that IQ on the far right is as Martha Stewart would say "a good thing" but look where she is saying it from.

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