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Author | Topic: Roy Moore, Alabama Chief Idiot back in the news yet again. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
It seems that there has been another episode in this sitcom.
quote: Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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subbie Member (Idle past 1276 days) Posts: 3509 Joined:
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The Alabama Supreme Court stands in the courthouse door saying, "Marriage inequality now, marriage inequality tomorrow, marriage inequality forever," and George Wallace isn't even one of the Justices.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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Larni Member (Idle past 185 days) Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined:
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Seems anything you right wingnut Christians don't like is Nazi. And often, simultaneously communism.The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It is mind boggling to see people who practice the act of sodomy elevated to the status of an oppressed minority supposedly denied the "right" to marriage that obviously makes sense only for heterosexuals, which was universally recognized by all cultures throughout history, while those who are rational and object to such craziness are called bigots and so on, but alas, so far gone is America these days.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8529 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Seems anything you right wingnut Christians don't like is Nazi.
And often, simultaneously communism. Nazi pinko fag? Can't quite place it but that sounds familiar. A late 60's Vietnam thing?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8529 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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It is mind boggling to see people ... denied the "right" to marriage... Fixed it for you.
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subbie Member (Idle past 1276 days) Posts: 3509 Joined:
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How exactly is anyone's "traditional" marriage harmed in any way by recognizing same sex marriage?
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Yup, as I noted the majority of the Probate Judges of Alabama understood Roy is just an idiot and bigot and so ignored his assertion that they did not have to issue same sex marriage licenses and more and more were issuing them every day.
Since once again the intelligent and educated folk in Alabama realized he was just a silly twit he had to show that the Christian Cult of Ignorance will simply oppress when they fail to persuade. Roy is a great example of why we need to fear any Biblical Christian in a position of power and authority.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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vimesey Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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It is mind boggling to see people who practice the act of sodomy elevated to the status of an oppressed minority supposedly denied the "right" to marriage that obviously makes sense only for heterosexuals, which was universally recognized by all cultures throughout history There are a few things to say in relation to this. First of all, sodomy is practiced by a very great number of heterosexual couples too, both married and unmarried. A quick look on Google reveals a survey which demonstrated that 30% of the women surveyed in the States had engaged in it at least once. If you're going to annul their marriages too, you're gonna lose a lot of your audience. Secondly, you have yet to demonstrate how it is "obvious" that marriage makes sense only for heterosexual couples. If you try to make the case that marriage is to provide a stable family environment, then you have to start annulling the marriages of childless couples, as well as ignoring the evidence of stable, loving environments for adopted children with gay adoptive parents. If you argue that marriage is about society recognising a loving emotional and financial commitment for life for a couple, then it's impossible for that not to apply to gay couples. And if you argue that it's somehow unnatural or not normal, you are faced with the inarguable position that for gay people, their relationship is entirely natural and normal for them. There is no "obvious" to any of your position. And thirdly, as has been pointed out before, many societies have recognised - even encouraged - homosexual relationships. The cradles of Western civilization, Greece and Rome, are both examples of this. And a large part of the reason that that recognition was not in the context of their concept of marriage, was that that concept was very much to do with the subjugation of women's personal and property rights to men. We've improved that a lot since then, and marriage is now an invaluable context in which our modern societies can recognise loving homosexual relationships. People being gay does you no harm. It does no one any harm. Do the decent, loving, generous thing for your fellow men and women, and let them marry. They love each other, for heaven's sake !Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1426 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
First of all, sodomy is practiced by a very great number of heterosexual couples too, both married and unmarried. A quick look on Google reveals a survey which demonstrated that 30% of the women surveyed in the States had engaged in it at least once. If you're going to annul their marriages too, you're gonna lose a lot of your audience. You forgot the part about the physically, sexually and mentally abusive husband ... oh wait, THAT is biblically sanctioned behavior for a "good" marriage. by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1426 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Seems anything you right wingnut Christians don't like is Nazi.
And often, simultaneously communism. Nazi pinko fag? Can't quite place it but that sounds familiar. A late 60's Vietnam thing? But now it needs to be updated ... Nazi Muslim pinko fag socialist ... (but not colored ... because they're not racists, oh no, not at all ... ) by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh excuuuuuse ME. I forget how addicted to sophistic nonsense you all are here. Of course what I MEANT was SODOMITES, HOMOSEXJUALS, those whose sexual MODE is sodomy. Egad. Blech.
When all cultures (with a teensy tiny few perverted exceptions) universally recognize marriage only between heterosexuals, who needs to ask why it's "obvious" that marriage is meant for heterosexuals? Not to mention common sense, but of course that doesn't exist at EvC. And who cares if some perverted societies "encouraged" homosexual relationships, we're talking about MARRIAGE here. Marriage is NOT about "recognising a loving emotional and financial commitment for life for a couple" or "stable loving environments" or any other such subjective feeling-defined crap. It's about the simple objective fact that heterosexuals are DESIGNED for each other and that together they have the physical capacity to produce babies. Oh and please spare me all the sophistry about the exceptions, the infertilities and so on, they don't affect the basic fact of the design for fit that is the apparatus of reproduction. And this is NOT about anybody's marriage or whether gays are nice people or love each other or any of that, it's about SOCIAL RULES AND STANDARDS, it's about the MEANING OF THINGS, it's about the social consciousness of SIMPLE REALITY, those are what are hurt by marrying people who are not designed to fit together. Oh yeah, more sophistry coming now, right? Well, gee, there's a hole there and an appendage that can fit into it, who cares what that hole or appendage are designed FOR? I know I'm just screaming into the wind though. Blech. ABE: P.S. And by the way, those "cradles of civilization" both imploded and no longer exist, right? Even secular historians have blamed that on their sexual perversities among other corruptions. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Stile Member Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined:
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Faith writes: I know I'm just screaming into the wind though. Yeah, it sucks when you're wrong.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Gosh, the level of deep intelligent thought here is just overwhelming.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
does not mean we need to be ignorant intolerant misogynic bigots.
Faith writes: Marriage is NOT about "recognising a loving emotional and financial commitment for life for a couple" or "stable loving environments" or any other such subjective feeling-defined crap. It's about the simple objective fact that heterosexuals are DESIGNED for each other and that together they have the physical capacity to produce babies. Oh and please spare me all the sophistry about the exceptions, the infertilities and so on, they don't affect the basic fact of the design for fit that is the apparatus of reproduction. Utter bullshit Faith. Marriage, even in the Bible, was a secular contract. It was purely financial, a matter or power and wealth and social standing. Marriage today just as in the Bible is a social, secular contract. It really is that simple. It has jack shit to do with sex, sexual orientation, sexual practices and everything to do with rights and inheritance and responsibility. No God need apply or is needed.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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