With a dying white race, why are we not encouraging more white births?

Having to swear to something is supposed to have enough of an impact on the conscience to prevent some people from lying. If they lie and are found out later on whatever the issue is I suppose it may have a use in a deportation hearing etc.

This may be what you think, but I think you are full of it. Just to be clear, I don't think you know what you are talking about. Right back at you.

I see. You've read the Koran and the Hadiths?

I think you are selectively reading them and intentionally misinterpreting them. I also think the same thing about your biblical and christianity views. Just my opinion.

I doubt you think I'm reading them selectively (and how would a command to kill the Jews wherever you find them be mitigated by not reading it selectively anyway?}. I don't think you know enough to think anything about it. It's just something you think must be true of me. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The vast majority of the former Confederate (traitor) states have been voting Republicans into virtually every office by vast majorities since 1980.Let's see how you "trump" this fact that everyone else seems to know.

The era in question was the two or three decades preceding 1980. Does that trump it for you?

Correct.

Well that's good at least. You admit to your baseless pure prejudice against me.ABE: Which is nothing unusual, but being willing to flatly declare your prejudice and label me with it as if it were fact is rather underhanded don't you think? Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Well, it is based on what I have read that you have written over the years.Your views about pretty much everything are so starkly different from mine that, frankly, I am amazed that we both have spent our lives on the same planet. I don't see anything underhanded about it. It has been right there in almost every exchange between us that I think you are full of it.Edited by Tanypteryx, : No reason given.

Still? Didn't this shift radically circa 1980?

Disagreeing with me is not the same thing as imposing your bias on me and treating your bias as the truth about me. That's underhanded.I can say that my views are so different from EVERYBODY's at EvC -- well, almost everybody -- that it's hard to believe we share the same planet. However, there are lots of others who do think like me, they just have better sense than to hang out at a place like EvC. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

A lot changed in 1980.I have traditionally been non-political, though my interest was piqued by the rise of the Radical Religious Right circa 1980 and the dire threat it posed for religious liberty. And then a few years ago my friend * re-introduced me to the term, "Dixie-crat".Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. So was his VP successor, Andrew Jackson. So were the many officials, AKA "carpet-baggers", who moved into the South after the Civil War and who are universally and totally hated Down Thar. As a result, all Republicans were reviled and Southern politics were dominated by the Democratic Party. And the Democratic Party in the South was concerned with maintaining that status quo and keeping segregation alive and well.Now the shift. First there were the Kennedy/Johnson initiatives and the 1964 Civil Rights Act. A lot of the resistance to civil rights came from the "Dixie-crats". Later (from a PBS program by Bill Moyers), after a lot of the civil unrest had died down, especially after Nixon's resignation, President Jimmy Carter had convened a conference on the family in order to encourage dialogue for determining what needed to be done for families.That back-fired (again, drawn mainly from a Bill Moyers program). The Carter treatment of family was to greatly extend it beyond "traditional" parameters. As Moyers had presented it, Southern religious values were still associated with the Democratic Party for the most part. Carter was a self-professed "born-again Christian", which had drawn the conservative Christians in to support him. But now with this conference on the family and what its findings were developing into, many conservative and fundamentalist Christians were finding that they just could not buy into that.Then came 1980. Reagan courted the newly formed Radical Religious Right who embodied and galvanized the newly dis-illusioned conservative Southerners. Basically, it was in 1980 that the South shifted massively from Democrat to Republican. The Southern Democrats felt that they had been betrayed by Jimmy Carter and his party and they jumped onto the Republican ship. Which is now sinking.

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FOOTNOTE *:
Liberal. In our particular dark red hole of California, Republicans and fundamentalist Christians tend to predominate, so she was very pleasantly surprised to learn that I was most decidedly neither. With so many of her other friends, she had to first carefully syncopate her way through elaborate dances with them trying to get a feel of where they stood on things.

My original point was that racism was originally a Democrat thing. I believe that still stands. although your history is quite interesting. It doesn't pertain to my point.

Look, I disagree with almost everything you write here, and based on what I have read that you have written I have come to my own conclusion that you don't know what you are talking about. When I read what you write I never think to myself "boy she nailed that one".If you think that is underhanded that is ok with me.I think we have pretty much exhausted this diversion from the topic.