The 2016 United States Presidential Election

Exactly. She didn't really acknowledge it was a mistake until she was debating Bernie.Enjoy

I don't think global climate change gives a hoot about US politics.

The civil war killed 600,000 folks out of a population of about 30 million. Yeah, the country did survive, but if this is an example intended to minimize concern over Trump, I personally find the argument wanting.

Well I think we can stop worrying about Global Climate Change. One of the key steps Trump has as part of his first hundred days is to turn NASAs gaze outward instead of inward navel staring at the Earth. That should reduce the alarmist news about Global Warming immediately.

Yet the Nation survived. Granted it was not all that great for those killed and for those whose homes and property were destroyed but US Industry and the Railroads and the Highway system expanded and Egyptian Cotton Industry was started and the tinned meats industry and and iron clad warships and expanded telegraph and the Army Ambulance Corps and Aerial Reconnaissance and long range weapons and naval mines developed and many individuals also profited.

I woke up this morning and was like whew what a nightmare.
I just dream' t that Trump got elected as president. : Perhaps folks just voting a straight Republican ticket.

Ironically, that was Jeb's big problem. Despite the fact that he knew the decision to go to Iraq would come up and bring to light his idiot brother's moronic mistakes, he kept fumbling on the answer.Pertaining to Hillary, after I saw the election outcome and the data pertaining to voter turnout, I am more convinced than ever that her biggest error was not making Bernie her VP. My guess is being that she is an egomaniac, like most politicians, she opted to not share the spotlight with her opponent. Regardless of how much appeal he had to his base.Just as a sidebar, in my area of Florida, there were tons of Trump signs just prior to the election. But during the primaries, the most signs I saw were Bernie signs. There were 'Feel the Bern' banners on highway overpasses. He had massive appeal. And Hillary just completely squandered that.My suspicion in the end is she just grossly underestimated both Bernie's appeal and Trumps.Now she may still have won the election without Bernie had the FBI snafu not manifested. Along with the DNC hacks. But regardless, she decided to play the 'safe' game and assume that voters would just come to her because Trump was so repugnant. I think in a way, she neglected to realize she shared many of the same character flaws. So it almost became a wash between the two of them.

Hi Tanypteryx,It is not Trump so much but freaken Pence that worries me. Trumps a egotistical load of hot air....but Pence? Pence is a koolaid drinking believer.We will survive a Trump administration. I am hoping that the Donald flips and somehow converts into a progressive. What a laugh that would be. He doesn't seem as hawkish at least as Hillary seemed.Heres to being hopeful.

Ike appointed a conservative Supreme Court Justice (by the way it was a recess appointment) by the name of Warren. He also appointed Conservative Justices notably a guy named Harlan that ended up supporting Civil Rights and Equal Protection and Due Process and the prohibition of Religious Tests by States and opposing censoring free speech and ...And then he went on to appoint that thorn in Reagan's side Brennan as well as Potter Stewart. (but Whitaker turned out to be a dud).People often turn out to be far different than expected.

It is going to be a rough ride. The Trump, religious right interaction will be interesting. I think that both sides think they used the other to achieve their goals. Ultimately, and probably very shortly this pursuit of goals will cause them to diverge. In this battle the religious right will prevail. They have experience and numbers. If Trump stands in their way they will impeach him and the good Dominionist Pence will step up.The Republican Party has been coopted and is now the tool of the Dominionists. That should scare the living shit out of every one of you. Dominionism is the Christian version of Sharia. Just as vile and just as deadly. They will kill anyone that does not believe as they believe. I am sure Dwise has some comments on it.I supported Hillary Clinton in the general election. As a rational person I had no other choice. I did not like that choice, but life doesn't always give us choices we like. She was a poor choice from the start. Lots of baggage, perceived and real. She was a latecomer to any sort of progressive agenda. The Clinton/Kaine ticket kept quite a few dems home on election day. She and Bill come from the old DLC wing of the party. Basically, republican light. That being said, she was light years better then Donald Trump and Mike Pence.
Democratic Leadership Council - WikipediaThe silver lining is that this campaign season has shown us the utter corruption of the Democratic Party and the amorality of the Republicans and Christian right. We now either get off our asses and make the Democratic Partya peoples party or we forge a new way forward. But forward we must go.In the short run we are going to be losing a lot of what has been gained in the last 100 years.
The right to vote will be severely curtailed. Jim Crow type laws are already back in some places and more to follow.
The rights of LGBQT americans will be curtailed. Gay marriage will no longer be the law of the land. There will be a hodgepodge and states will not have to honor the marriages from other states. It is possible that there will be a law outlawing it nationwide. There may be laws outlawing homosexuality.
Millions will lose health insurance. There will be nothing put in place to remedy this. Health care costs will skyrocket for all(except the very wealthy)
New tax codes will drive up both the debt and deficit. Crippling taxes on the poor will spike crime rate. The economy will circle down the toilet. The rich will get richer. They will move to gated communities.We will have more wars. When you have god on your side it is easy to tell who is good and who is bad. The bad must be destroyed.You think I am over the top? Look at what the right is proposing. This is what it will be if they get to do it.
But they did save us from that nasty lady with the email problem.

If Mod wants to explain his position to me, he's welcome to do so. Apparently you have nothing of your own to say.

That's my conclusion as well. The most well established and most prominent Republican, Paul Ryan, was easily re-elected in Wisconsin, one of the states that supposedly "voted against the establishment". I call hooey on the claim it was an anti-establishment vote. It was a vote for a change in party, but not a vote for some existential change in politics as a whole. This makes much more sense given the history of parties having difficulty being elected into the White House after 2 terms in power.What I also think is happening is that they are using the "outsider" tag to mask something much darker. People didn't like Trump because he was an outsider. They liked him because of the dog whistles he was all too eager to blow. His rhetoric was xenophobic, nativist, and nationalist. That's what they liked. Even if we all know that a lot of it is just hyperbole that no one thinks he will follow through on, he still displays the same disdain that his voters have. If a rank-and-file Republican had used the same rhetoric he would have had the same success.Edited by Taq, : No reason given.Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

Pence is stridently Pro-Life. My hope is that the next 4 years will shut the door on Pro-Life rhetoric. We all know that voting to ban abortions is political suicide for the party as a whole. I highly, highly doubt that they will bring an abortion ban forth in the in next 4 years even though they have control of all 3 branches of government. If they fail to even try and ban abortions, we can all claim quite loudly that even if they claim they are Pro-Life, they really aren't. If elected, they will never put forth an abortion ban and we all know it.Quite frankly, I think Democrats should just get out of their way. Don't filibuster anything. Republicans have been talking big for a decade now about what they would do, a lot of which is little more than rhetoric. When they are actually in the position to vote for their own bullshit it will produce two options. One, they end up not voting for it, allowing us to move past their rhetoric and towards more sane legislation. Two, they do vote for it and Democrats run against them using their vote against them. We may have to put up with same crap legislation for a little while, but it might come out for the positive in the long term.For a little context, I consider all of this the bargaining stage in my movement through the 5 stages of grief.Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

The federal government may not be able to bring forth an abortion bad in the next 4 years, but they can arrange to allow individual states make many women's lives hell, or even end their lives simply by creating a Supreme Court that disrespects women they way 3.5 current Supreme Court already do. (Kennedy occasionally sees a limit on abortion he doesn't like, but the others never have). I agree. Perhaps giving the republicans a little rope will be great for generating interest in the 2018 midterm elections. Nothing else seems capable of waking up Democratic voters.

Okay, my apologies, and thank you for correcting me Ramoss. I will use a different photo in the future.I am curious, . . . to prevent myself from making a similar error in the future, can you tell me how you identified this photo? {I am going to do a PM with directions back to this message. The method I used is a Google image search. You can drag and drop any image into such a search and, among other things, the results will list many webpages that include the image. For the image in question, it was clear that it was indeed the 1982 Lebanese massacre. - Adminnemooseus}Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Answering question.