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ScottRP Member (Idle past 174 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: |
There was a time when I saw and heard spirits. A time when I would speak to Jesus and He would speak back to me. I asked Him who the spirits were in my life who had harmed me. He told me through the Spirit of truth they were human spirits without God in the afterlife. I inquired about them going to heaven and He sent down the Holy Spirit through the clouds stopping in front of me and pointing at me. He was telling me that I could make atonement for the dead and that He would release them of their sins. I have completed this good work by showing many throughout the world the real Holy Spirit and giving testimony and bearing witness to Him, the Father and the angels and saints. Jesus had revealed this to me in a dream. I boast of my magnificent Savior and God Jesus Christ and His Father for reaching out to help their enemies through a lowly servant such as myself. They truly are mighty to save.
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Porosity Member (Idle past 2121 days) Posts: 158 From: MT, USA Joined: |
Your going to need far more energy to view, let alone detect any perceived "supernatural" phenomenon.
As a child I could see strange transparent shapes floating around in my field vision, they never seem to stay still when I tried to focus on them.. I remember pointing and asking dad "is that God?" my dad looking at me perplexed. Turns out, I was just seeing small particles floating on my eyeball! My point being, things your describing as "supernatural" are unlikely within our natural perception. Things don't start getting really strange till we get to the Quantum level and this takes energies way beyond any commercial camera available to the public.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5949 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Actually, that German example was pertinent to the discussion as an example of separating the idea of location from other ideas, much as ser and estar separate ideas of location and origin.
"Ich laufe ins Haus." means I'm running into the house, whereas "Ich laufe im Haus." means I'm running around inside of the house. Use of the dative case with positional prepositions invokes the older locative case, which indicated location ("im Haus"), whereas use of the accusative with the same preposition indicates motion in relation to the object, such as transitioning into the house ("ins Haus"). The Proto-Indo-European is supposed to have had no prepositions; didn't need them since the 8 cases served that purpose. The pattern that we see is for some cases to get absorbed into another case along with the increase in use of prepositions. For example, Anglo-Saxon (AKA Old English, extant until after 1066) still had cases, but at that time the instrumental case was being absorbed into the dative. Then after the Norman Conquest, English became very heavily French-ified, pretty much killing case in English among other things *. It makes life a lot easier to read a language that still uses cases. I remember a few times in French class where the word order was a bit strange and I couldn't begin to figure out who was the subject and who was the object. The "problem" for students is that they have a number of endings to learn, one of the things that Mark Twain lampooned in his essay (grammatical gender being the other, but many languages have that too, so German is not special). As for German not getting it, of course not, since they are native speakers which makes it all perfectly natural. Native speakers of English are the same way about their language. And when a native speaker is trying to teach his language to a foreigner, he will not understand why the beginning student makes the kind of stupid mistakes that he keeps making. That is why my Russian prof maintained that a first-year language teacher should not be a native speaker. To illustrate, there's a joke in Robin Williams' "Moscow on the Hudson" that I think most of the audience didn't get. It caught my attention, because years earlier a Yugoslavian friend had said the same thing about her mouth hurting at the end of English class. I don't think that Mark Twain was making fun of German itself, but rather of English speakers trying to learn German and the funny ideas about language that they carry with them. Footnote:
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ScottRP Member (Idle past 174 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: |
People have been witnessing the supernatural for thousands of years. Nothing you say or believe is going to change that.
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ScottRP writes:
I am speaking about dust. People have been observing that for thousands of years too - and most people can tell dust from spirits. So how, specifically, do you tell dust from spirits?
You are speaking in riddles.
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Porosity Member (Idle past 2121 days) Posts: 158 From: MT, USA Joined: |
People have been witnessing the supernatural for thousands of years. Nothing you say or believe is going to change that. Right.. I totally agree. And people are going to continue to make stuff up in order to explain away things they don't understand. This is why we use the scientific method to help eliminate human confirmation bias. Edited by Porosity, : Quote
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ScottRP Member (Idle past 174 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: |
Here is a video of a spirit in one of the many small chariots of God (orbs).
You can plainly see a spirit in one of the orbs and that they are not dust. Paranormal Exposure, Hard Evidence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-k9PHX4MR4 Both good and evil spirits travel in these chariots (orbs).
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There was a time when I saw and heard spirits. A time when I would speak to Jesus and He would speak back to me. I asked Him who the spirits were in my life who had harmed me. He told me through the Spirit of truth they were human spirits without God in the afterlife. I inquired about them going to heaven and He sent down the Holy Spirit through the clouds stopping in front of me and pointing at me. He was telling me that I could make atonement for the dead and that He would release them of their sins. I have completed this good work by showing many throughout the world the real Holy Spirit and giving testimony and bearing witness to Him, the Father and the angels and saints. Jesus had revealed this to me in a dream. I boast of my magnificent Savior and God Jesus Christ and His Father for reaching out to help their enemies through a lowly servant such as myself. They truly are mighty to save. Scott, Unlike the others here who think you've made it all up, I believe that you have had direct experience of the spirit world. But only demonic experience. You never saw Jesus or the Holy Spirit, all that was a demonic illusion. The Bible is the standard for judging these things and among the many clues in your experiences that they are delusional is the fact that we can't atone for anybody, only the perfect Son of God could do that. Unfortunately you will probably go on believing the delusion because it was a personal experience.
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ScottRP Member (Idle past 174 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: |
The entire Catholic Church believes in offering up good works for the dead.
2 Maccabees 12:46. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin. Jesus confirmed this for me.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
2 Maccabees 12:46. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin. The passage in question describes prayers and offerings on behalf of the dead. Nothing about doing works on behalf of the dead. And the context is pre-Christ, Jewish practice. I think you are torturing the text just a wee bit. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The entire Catholic Church believes in offering up good works for the dead. 2 Maccabees 12:46. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin. Jesus confirmed this for me. "One life and then the judgment:" Hebrews 9:27-28: And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. No atonement after death, not even through Christ. Very clear from scripture Scott. No Nukes already gave the essential answer. There were many practices before Christ came that foreshadowed what He would do, but the New Testament says none of them were efficacious without faith in Him. Also we are not to take the Apocrypha (Maccabees) as authoritative. And certainly not the Catholic Church with its plethora of pagan practices that the Reformers did away with. Masses for the dead, indulgences to get people out of a nonexistent Purgatory etc etc, are a horrible travesty, especially since their main objective is to collect money from poor sad grieving people. The "Jesus" you saw was a demonic impersonation. Of course he "confirmed" a big fat lie for you. Wake up Scott. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Actually, that German example was pertinent to the discussion as an example of separating the idea of location from other ideas, much as ser and estar separate ideas of location and origin. OK, then I missed the point of your German example. But you'd already convinced me about the Spanish usage anyway.
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ScottRP Member (Idle past 174 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: |
Atonement can be made by offering up good works.
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ScottRP Member (Idle past 174 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: |
You are in error and a liar. You could not possibly know that the Jesus I saw was a demon. In fact, you probably have no or little experience with the spirit world and are not qualified to speak on this matter at all. Just as I would not have my car diagnosed by an inexperienced mechanic, neither would I listen to you regarding such matters. Stop acting like you know something that you do not.
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ringo Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ScottRP writes:
That is one of the worst quality videos I've ever seen. You could imagine the moon landing or the three bears in that video. You can plainly see a spirit in one of the orbs and that they are not dust. There's something that resembles a face ON the dust speck, not in it. But of course you can see horsies and duckies in the clouds too. It doesn't mean there's anything real there.
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