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cavediver Member  Posts: 4125 From: UK Joined: |
Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito have just had their convictions overturned after serving four years in jail for the murder of Meredith Kercher. Thank Dog for that given the apparent dubious quality of the evidence and ridiculous dependence on circumstantial evidence (how much "circumstantial" equals one "beyond reasonable doubt"??? - topic for another thread.) Anyway, what I want to know is WHAT THE HELL WERE THE KERCHERS DOING IN COURT??? Apparently they had travelled all day from the UK just to be present at the verdict. Were they just sufficiently interested in this news-worthy event that they fancied a ringside seat? Were they hoping against hope that, irrespective of due-process and their respective guilt or otherwise, Knox and Sollecito would spend the rest of their lives (or large fraction there-of) behind bars? Were they desperate that the unfortunate pair should see true justice and be freed so that they could celebrate alongside them? Or were they, just like every other damn victim's family in the Western world, merely pawns of the fucked-up media?
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crashfrog Inactive Member |
They may have been asked to attend by the Italian court or by the prosecution? Or perhaps even by the defense. I suspect pawns, more than anything else. While you would expect the family of a victim to be "out for blood", and perhaps understandably less concerned that it's the right blood, in practice this seems to be relatively rare; most of the families seem to understand that it's important to get the right guy, they object when their plight is misused to further injustice, and relatively few families of murder victims express a desire to see the perpetrator executed. Most people have internalized the message that vengeance won't make them feel better. (Which is too bad, because the emerging research is that vengeance actually does make you feel better, a lot better; it's just that what the government does isn't vengeance, so criminal punishment doesn't seem to have that effect.)
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Dr Adequate Member  Posts: 11047 Joined: Member Rating: 8.8 |
I knew it! And as for the fools who told me different, I shall make them suffer! Er ... can I see some of this research, please?
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nwr Member  Posts: 4983 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 9.7 |
It is probably psychology (emotions). I have seen it too many times. The victim's family feels vindicated when there is a conviction. The victim's family is terribly upset if the conviction is thrown out, even though the evidence might be overwhelming that the original conviction was a gross miscarriage of justice. There are occasional cases where the victim's family recognizes the problem and actually works to have the conviction thrown out. But those seem to be rarer than the other kind. Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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caffeine Member  Posts: 786 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Doesn't it seem perfectly reasonable to take an interest in trials surrounding your child's murder? I understand their stake a lot better than everybody else in the world who seems to be captivated by the whole affair for no clear or apparent reason.
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Aware Wolf Member  Posts: 153 From: New Hampshire, USA Joined: |
Amanda Knox is attractive.
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Panda Member  Posts: 2606 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 8.3 |
...and her family hired a PR company. Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.
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Catholic Scientist Member  Posts: 7899 From: near St. Louis Joined: Member Rating: 9.6
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http://www.cbsnews.com/...10/05/earlyshow/main20115856.shtml quote: Holy shit that sucks. All that debt and she was innocent. That's not fair at all.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 134 days)  Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
I fully agree. Edited by bluescat48, : No reason given. There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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Artemis Entreri  Suspended Member (Idle past 173 days)  Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined:
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Catholic Scientist Member Posts: 7899 From: near St. Louis Joined: Member Rating: 9.6 |
I don't have the link handy, but a different news article I was reading yesterday quoted her saying that she hoped to visit Italy again in the future Fuck that! I wouldn't if I was her...
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Artemis Entreri Suspended Member (Idle past 173 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: |
no shit. I would like to visit Vatican City, so I would have to go to Rome, and thus go to Italy, but I would just do what I did last time and tell everyone I am from Canada (they can't tell the difference).
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Catholic Scientist Member Posts: 7899 From: near St. Louis Joined: Member Rating: 9.6 |
How do you know? I've just came in at the end, I hadn't even heard about it until I saw news of the appeal.
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dronester Member  Posts: 931 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 8.7 |
(Oh well, if it's an Italian prison, the food should be good)
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1.61803 Member  Posts: 1955 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
 ok:
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