Jimmy Carter

Joe Heller well said: One of the good presidents.Enjoy

You and I lived through Jimmy Carter. He's a good man, possibly even a great man. He wasn't a very good president.--Percy

Probably the biggest trial he had was the Iran hostage crisis.Why I think he was good was that he did not go to war over it as would happen today with any number of GOP candidates.Enjoy

If Reagan was the Teflon president then Carter was the flypaper president. Everything he touched turned to dross and he got the blame, plus bad things just seemed to happen on his watch. You already mentioned the Iran hostage crisis, not his fault, but the Desert One debacle was a mission *he* approved. There was also the gas shortage with incredible lines at the pumps and unreal (for then) gas prices, plus inflation was up way above 10% and mortgage interest rates above 15%.Then there was his wimpy approach to problem solving, like sitting in a sweater and announcing a crisis of confidence. Even his calls to action came off poorly, like declaring the Moral Equivalent of War with it's lack of teeth and unfortunate acronym. Praising him for not sharing Republican lunacy damns him with faint praise.He *was* very unlucky, but great leaders make their own luck.--Percy

He was pretty unlucky and he had that dimwitted brother who was always in the news.He is a good man.He was responsible for the Camp David Accord, which seemed pretty amazing, to me, at the time.

It is confusing when you originate political threads after you cheered Coyote for writing: Carter's post-presidential WORDS almost make him a hero to me . . .

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[Jimmy Carter] denounced the Obama administration for "clearly violating" 10 of the 30 articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, writing in a New York Times op-ed on Monday that the "United States is abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights."

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A former U.S. president is accusing [Obama] of sanctioning the "widespread abuse of human rights" by authorizing drone strikes to kill suspected terrorists.

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In addition to the drone strikes, Carter criticized the current president for keeping the Guantanamo Bay detention center open, where prisoners "have been tortured by waterboarding more than 100 times or intimidated with semiautomatic weapons, power drills or threats to sexually assault their mothers."

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The former president blasted the government for allowing "unprecedented violations of our rights to privacy through warrantless wiretapping and government mining of our electronic communications.

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But his presidential ACTIONS were as shameful as other american presidents . . .Latin America:

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Archbishop Oscar Romero [of El Salvador] wrote to President Carter in 1980 shortly before his assassination, vainly pleading with him to end U.S. support for the state terrorist.

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http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199607--.htmEast Timor:

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Carter was the least violent of American presidents but he did things which I think would certainly fall under Nuremberg provisions. As the Indonesian atrocities increased to a level of really near-genocide, the U.S. aid under Carter increased. It reached a peak in 1978 as the atrocities peaked.

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http://www.chomsky.info/talks/1990----.htm

[cynicism]Yeah, I know, but it didn't bring peace. The Nobel Peace Prize has been awarded for efforts to bring about peace in the Middle East in 1978, 1994, 2002 (in part) and 2009 (in part). Like fusion power, peace in the Middle East is a dream of the future and always will be. It will continue to generate Nobel Peace Prizes for generations to come.[/cynicism]--PercyEdited by Percy, : Grammar.

Yeah, no peace, but just getting Egypt and Isreal in the same room talking was amazing.I am sorry to hear that Carter has cancer. I expect that the public part of his illness and death will be with dignity. I have wondered (to myself) what would happen if the U. S. completely withdrew from the middle east, and had no contact, for a generation, what would happen? I mean completely ignore them, no aid, no trade, no communication, no Americans there at all, no matter what happens. I am so sick of all the sides in all the countries involved. This has nothing to do with Carter, just a personal rant.

I'll tell you what would happen. Israel would be attacked immediately by the Arab world, just as they attacked the moment Israel was established as a state, and again on Yom Kippur in 1967. God defended them then and might now as well. But all the negotiations for peace have been nothing but a sham, ALL our Presidents who push for peace are delusional on the subject because the fact of the matter is that the Palestinians (meaning the terrorist leaders, not the people though the people are mostly in favor of the leaders anyway) sabotage every peace effort. They do not want peace, they want Israel dead, pushed into the sea. They say as much and everybody ignores it. Their maps are drawn with no Israel on them. They don't want a state alongside Israel; they could have had that time and time again and with much help from Israel in accomplishing it too, but they refused every offer, sabotaged every deal. Anything the Palestinians get is turned into a launching place for weapons against Israel. Israel gave up Gaza and the Palestinians let it fall into ruin and built tunnels for weapons and their daily pastime is to lob rockets at Israel. Still people think Oh why can't there be peace. What's that line about the evidence of insanity. That you keep doing something over and over that never works?Well, you may get your wish anyway. Obama seems inclined to abandon Israel. Followers of Bible prophecy are gritting our teeth and wondering what is going to happen... The War of Armageddon perhaps?

There will be fusion power long before there is peace in the middle east.

I don't know what any of this has to do with Jimmy Carter.I have not heard anything Obama says about Isreal. I don't see that I should be obligated to spend any of my tax dollars on Isreal.

And his lowering the highway speed limit to 50 by executive order was a good example of dealing with problems caused by others. Personally I think we could live with 40 mph, but then I'm biased as a cyclist ... You mean like Schrubbia? Enjoy

Well I actually thought about just that issue when I posted, but without any new YECs I thought I would provide some fill broadcasting ... And actions - I think he's done more post-president than as president. I often wonder how much a president's hands are tied by the dept of defense etc. It seems a lot of president's get elected on great programs and then they have their first security council briefing and the actions follow their predecessors actions more than their promises.Enjoy

When Carter was in office I can remember being pretty critical of him. Since his presidency ended I have come to admire him a lot.I especially like his criticism of the so-called Christians in Congress who cut off funding for food and the basic necessities for the poor and children.I love it when he makes heads spin on Fox. He has not been afraid to voice his criticisms of those in office now.

It's good to know that the "pinnacle" of your career doesn't have to be the end of your career.