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Since the powers-that-be in Sweden have decided they have a vested interest in suppressing the facts

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There's that Grand Conspiracy to Suppress the Truth (C) again.It would help if you could tell us what that "vested interest" is. Exactly why would Sweden want to lie to its citizens and put them at risk?Hint: "Political correctness" is not an answer. Remember, more than 15% of the population of Sweden is foreign born. Why would they want to deny the reality of crime in their country of residence? They don't care about their own lives? They are willing to be martyrs to "political correctness"?

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If something is called "right wing" you automatically dismiss it without cause.

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Incorrect.First, nothing is dismissed out of hand without cause.Second, right-wing sources tend to be more apt to falsify their statements in order to maintain the politically correct stance. But that doesn't mean all right-wing sources do so.Third, all sources you have put forward have been found to falsify their statements in order to maintain the politically correct stance. This leads you to making such statements that Sweden "has a vested interest in suppressing the facts"...while conveniently neglected to mention what that "vested interest" is.Thus, you show yourself to be the most politically correct of all.Reality doesn't care what you believe. The simple fact of the matter is that the crime rate in Sweden hasn't changed over the past dozen years despite the fact that Sweden has seen a massive uptick in immigration to the point that more than 15% of the population is foreign born.Oh, that's right...I forgot about the Grand Conspiracy to Suppress the Truth (C).

Faith writes:

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The "right wing" seems to have a different set of statistics.'

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No, they don't.Making up numbers out of thin air is not "statistics." Surely you have heard of the joke: 87% of statistics are made up.Question: Is that number a real statistical result or did I make it up?When we look at the numbers put forward by right-wing sources, we find that those numbers are quite literally made up. The sources they claim to produce those numbers either don't exist or say the opposite of what they claim. You've been burned by this before, Faith. How many more times do you need to be burned before you realize that Fox/Breitbart/Alex Jones/Stormfront/etc. are lying to you?

It's also worth pointing out that Sweden has what I think (I'd need to check) are the highest reported rates for rape in Europe. (Due principally to how rape is reported (a separate report recorded for each incidence of rape reported in a relationship) and a strong public awareness campaign encouraging reporting - these were the results of a study I read the synopsis of, carried out by a Swedish professor as I recall - I can find it again if need be).The thing is this - if Sweden's authorities were suppressing true rape statistics, how likely does even Faith think it is that they'd manipulate them so as to show the highest rape rate in Europe ?

It is truly amazing the lengths you go to, Faith, the massive conspiracies you invent, to protect and justify your beliefs.Sad

The numbers for the last three years are available and have been posted here. If the chart were extended to include 2016 it would look the same. Crime is not up, rapes are not up.No matter how many people post evidence-free rants on YouTube.

No mention of truth or reality. Telling. Of course you have no evidence or reason to believe they were bullied.

The right wing has no statistics. Just a few anecdotes.

In case you don't know,there was a "documentary" from well-known wingnut Ami Horowitz. It featured interviews with two Swedish policeman who made damning admissions. Swedish Cops Featured in Fox News Segment Say Views Were Misrepresented

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Part of the support Horowitz presents for his view on Sweden’s horrors are interviews with two police officers. The problem is those officers say they never meant to espouse the message that Horowitz attributes to them. It was supposed to be about crime in high risk areas. Areas with high crime rates. There wasn’t any focus on migration or immigration, Anders Granzon told Swedish paper Dagens Nyheter. According to Granzon, Horowitz edited their answers, which were to completely different questions in the interview. His conclusion? This is bad journalism.

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Once again reality intrudes.Once again your sources are simply liars Faith.The "powers-that-be in Sweden" are suppressing nothing. In fact they reported that rapes were up. BUT, and here is where they are so different than your sources, they also went on to explain why the readings are as high as they were.First, they changed the definitions of what would be called rape to include incidents that would not have been included in the past or in other jurisdictions.Second, the had an active campaign to encourage reports of rape or other sexual offenses.Third they actively trained Law Enforcement on how to respond to reports.And finally they kept and reported statistics over time.What your sources are telling you as usual turns out to be lies Faith.The rape statistics in Sweden showed the greatest rise when the new laws went into effect that made incidents "rape" that in the past would not have been "rape".The number of annual rape cases varied over time but remained within the same basic range.There was no increase that correlated with increased immigration.There was no increase that correlated with the religious beliefs of the person accused of committing the rape or the religious beliefs of the person being raped.Your sources are simply liars and propagandists.

You have posted no evidence. Evidence is based on facts. You have posted anecdotes, opinions and just so stories. Again you have no evidence of this at all. The creator of the "documentary" is an admitted liar, who was caught manufacturing quotes to serve a political agenda.Damn looks like the damn leftists got to the israelis too.

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Finally, Horowitz’s film claims that there are so-called police ‘no-go zones’ — immigrant ghettos in cities where the authorities are unable to patrol because it is too dangerous for them to enter. To be clear, Swedish police have confirmed that there are no ‘no-go zones’. Two Swedish officers, Anders Granzon and Jakob Ekstrm who were featured in Horowitz’s film, were also surprised at how their statements were taken out of context after being interviewed by the filmmaker. It was supposed to be about crime in high-risk areas, say the officers in a subsequent interview with Sweden’s largest morning newspaper, Dagens Nyheter. There wasn’t any focus on migration or immigration. We don’t stand behind it. He has edited the answers.

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What’s really happening in Sweden | David Francisco | The Blogs

Further support for what you say comes from Wikipedia:

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In that interview, Horowitz made numerous assertions about Sweden, which have been deemed false or unsubstantiated by the Swedish authorities, criminologists and a wide range of news organizations and fact-checkers.
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Two policemen who featured in Horowitz's documentary said that Horowitz edited answers and questions to misrepresent the policemen. Two camermen involved in the project later substantiated that the policemen were correct and that the footage had been unethically edited to misrepresent the subjects. The cameramen also reviewed the raw films to confirm it. Horowitz denies it, but refused to show the raw material.

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From Swedish police featured in Fox News segment: Filmmaker is a madman

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"I don’t understand why we are a part of the segment. The interview was about something completely different to what Fox News and Horowitz were talking about", says Anders Granzon..."It was supposed to be about crime in high risk areas. Areas with high crime rates. There wasn’t any focus on migration or immigration...We don’t stand behind it. It shocked us. He has edited the answers. We were answering completely different questions in the interview. This is bad journalism."

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There are a couple other articles referenced by Wikipedia:

• US film on Swedish crime unethically edited, say cameramen
  
• He filmed the police interview that Trump saw: The material was not edited ethically

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Swedish Cops Featured in Fox News Segment Say Views Were Misrepresented

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Part of the support Horowitz presents for his view on Sweden’s horrors are interviews with two police officers. The problem is those officers say they never meant to espouse the message that Horowitz attributes to them. It was supposed to be about crime in high risk areas. Areas with high crime rates. There wasn’t any focus on migration or immigration, Anders Granzon told Swedish paper Dagens Nyheter. According to Granzon, Horowitz edited their answers, which were to completely different questions in the interview. His conclusion? This is bad journalism.

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Not "bad journalism" but FAKE NEWS journalism.but of course this is a conspiracy by FAUX to counter the conspiracy that must exist ...

It isn't bad journalism, it is propaganda.

Ah well, clearly the propaganda from the Swedish government that is strangled by political correctness is simply preferred by posters here. You think you're asking for evidence but the evidence has been posted. You prefer to call it propaganda. The propaganda is on the other side, the people who are afraid of the truth that their country is being destroyed by Muslim refugees. I posted the interview by Fox where the cops are interviewed saying it wasn't immigrants it was a high crime area, but the fact is that the high crime areas are where the immigrants live. Imagine that. And one of the cops gave it away by saying they don't want to be considered racist. Imagine that. It's all there. The amazing thing is that you don't want to know it.

The interview with the cops aired by Tucker Carlson at Fox News is linked in Message 197 on the right margin, where they are claiming to have been misunderstood, talk about "high crime areas" and admit the government is afraid of appearing to be racist.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.