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NoNukes Inactive Member |
stop blaming those who have good reason to distrust vaccination and make vaccines safer. What's left to do to make them safer Faith? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
SOME is available in single doses, not all, and that too is the result of people showing that Thimerosal is dangerous, which again proves the untrustworthiness of those who were telling us it was safe up until then. Even in single doses trace amounts add up. Why is there ANY? Also after it was proven dangerous they continued giving the original mix as usual until it ran out. After it was PROVED to cause autism. People still don't know that Thimerosal is the cause of autism so the movie is necessary, and as I keep saying, one thing it should get across beyond a doubt is that the people who have the responsibility for the safety of vaccines have been lying so wny EVER trust them? Make them subject to lawsuits and see how fast they clean up their act.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The reason they have used toxic preservatives has to do with their being the cheapest, while the cost of what they'd have to do to really ensure their safety could be much higher. It's not just a matter of getting rid of the toxins, it's a matter of knowing for sure what's in the mixtures in the first place, which in many cases they really don't know. There are antibiotics in them for instance because of the real danger of bacterial infection which could possibly be dealt with by cleaner methods. I don't know all the issues because there are lots of them and the bottom line is cost.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Thimersol has not been shown to be dangerous. It is not used any more because there was some uncertainty, but studies since then show no sign that there was any danger.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
SOME is available in single doses, not all All of the vaccinations on the childhood schedule are provided in single doses. Most of those vaccinations never had mercury in them. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
The reason they have used toxic preservatives has to do with their being the cheapest, while the cost of what they'd have to do to really ensure their safety could be much higher. Are you ever going to refer to any sources? This argument is pretty one sided right now. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Yes I found the movie believable. And you don't remember one piece of evidence or one reference. OK.
Along with all the other information I've been getting about the dangers of vaccines. [citations required]
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Please cite those studies.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Wow!!
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Tell you what, I'll look them up after you supply your supposed evidence of thimerosol causing autism.
And then you can tell me what you think of chemically castrating autistic children.
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Bliyaal Member (Idle past 2395 days) Posts: 171 From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada Joined: |
Where's my ACME Irony Detector? Oh yeah... everywhere 'cause it exploded.
Courtesy is sometimes earned. This case is a good example. Give yours please.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Here are a couple of studies on the connection between vaccines and autism, though not about thimerosal.
Impact of Environmental Factors... Hepatitis B vaccination of newborns... From the abstract: Findings suggest that U.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 (from vaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autism diagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same time period. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk. Study of boys aged 3 to 17 vaccinated as newborns for Hepatitis B, using probability calculations found positive correlation with autism but higher in nonwhite boys. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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AdminAsgara Administrator (Idle past 2330 days) Posts: 2073 From: The Universe Joined:
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Hi Faith,
Maybe you could tell us in your own words what you think these articles are saying?
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Maybe you could tell us in your own words what you think these articles are saying? Vaccine bad! Measles good! ;-)
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
And here are some negative studies:
Early Thimerosal Exposure and Neuropsychological Outcomes at 7 to 10 Years Prenatal and Infant Exposure to Thimerosal From Vaccines and Immunoglobulins and Risk of Autism (abstract)
Early exposure to the combined measles—mumps—rubella vaccine and thimerosal-containing vaccines and risk of autism spectrum disorder
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