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frako
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Message 16 of 70 (800314)
02-22-2017 3:27 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Dogmafood
02-21-2017 6:55 PM


I wonder how many would be surprised that we Canadians export as much military gear per capita as the US.
Well yea its kind of hard to imagine a canadian arms dealer.
You just push this button here eh, and your enemy will go sleepy by eh.
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What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.

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Message 17 of 70 (800317)
02-22-2017 7:24 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by frako
02-22-2017 3:27 AM


Jobs at ALL costs
Only Canada understands the concept of Cold War. (Well so does Russia)
Why go fight, eh? Its too cold...stay in the warm house and make love, not war, eh?
The people are the greatest. The politicians are statesmen, unlike here...but the capitalist tendency to worship money over people is the problem with every western democracy.(or Monarchy)
Dismantling the military industrial complex would change life the way we know it.
People will never want to place jobs on the altar.

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Riggamortis
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Message 18 of 70 (800387)
02-22-2017 8:59 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Dogmafood
02-21-2017 6:57 PM


Not for the media
They love to do pieces on how good we are. An Australian news show recently compared civillian casualties caused by the west with those caused by Russia to demonstrate how we're so much better than them nasty Russians 🙄

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Message 19 of 70 (800390)
02-22-2017 9:13 PM
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02-22-2017 8:59 PM


Re: Not for the media
It's ideology, not people, and the west historically is "so much better" than any other civilization on earth. Or was.

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Message 20 of 70 (800422)
02-23-2017 11:29 AM
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02-22-2017 9:13 PM


Re: Not for the media
Faith writes:
... the west historically is "so much better" than any other civilization on earth. Or was.
"I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."
-- unofficial motto of Western Civilization

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Message 21 of 70 (800426)
02-23-2017 11:50 AM
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02-23-2017 11:29 AM


Re: Not for the media
More fake news.

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ringo
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Message 22 of 70 (800428)
02-23-2017 12:02 PM
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02-23-2017 11:50 AM


Re: Not for the media
Faith writes:
More fake news.
Are you saying that the destruction of indigenous cultures in North America is fake news?

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Message 23 of 70 (800429)
02-23-2017 12:11 PM
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02-23-2017 12:02 PM


Re: Not for the media
Oh my my my. Every civilization destroyed some indigenous culture or other. Every one of them. And who knows how that "indigenous cujlture" got there in the first place? Warring tribes destroying each other you know.
But no, what I had in mind is that a paraphrase of the Bhagavad Gita by a nuclear scientist seems an odd reference against Western Civilization. And all the more when you introduce the completely irrelevant context of indigenous cultures.
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ringo
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Message 24 of 70 (800430)
02-23-2017 12:29 PM
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02-23-2017 12:11 PM


Re: Not for the media
Faith writes:
Every civilization destroyed some indigenous culture or other. Every one of them.
I was responding to your claim that western civilization is better than any other civilization on earth. Thanks for contradicting yourself.
Faith writes:
But no, what I had in mind is that a paraphrase of the Bhagavad Gita by a nuclear scientist seems an odd reference against Western Civilization.
I wasn't quoting Oppenheimer. I was quoting the same source he quoted but with a wider context.
Faith writes:
And all the more when you introduce the completely irrelevant context of indigenous cultures.
I think it's pretty relevant, since much of the the US military budget is still targeted at "inferior" cultures.

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Message 25 of 70 (800432)
02-23-2017 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by ringo
02-23-2017 12:29 PM


Re: Not for the media
Ah yes, that old canard. I was trying to avoid it. Sigh. There are different ways civilizations overtook indigenous cultures. America was originally Christian and made friends with them, bought their land, sometimes converted them. Later waves of Europeans weren't so Chrristian. But still in the end they were simply overwhelmed by a superior culture. Morally superior too. I know you've been brainwashed against western civilization of course, bought the revisionist history that has been written in the last century for that purpose. How well it has worked. It's mostly lies but golly gosh it's there in print so it must be true.
I see so you are quoting the Hindu scripture against western civilization. How appropriate of course. Polytheists of course know better than Christians.
Oh I don't think we are great any more, thanks to the leftist influence. Except I can't think of any that are better even so.

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jar
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Message 26 of 70 (800434)
02-23-2017 1:33 PM
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02-23-2017 1:03 PM


Re: Not for the media
Faith writes:
Oh I don't think we are great any more, thanks to the leftist influence. Except I can't think of any that are better even so.
Well Cuba does a better job of providing health care, education, basic living needs like food and clothing even with the US trying so hard to make that impossible.
All of Scandinavia does a better job at health care, safety, quality of life, providing basic needs.
In fact it's hard to find a civilized country that does do at least as well as the US when it comes to stuff like health care.

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Message 27 of 70 (800438)
02-23-2017 1:57 PM
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02-23-2017 1:33 PM


Re: Not for the media
We may have a chance at good healthcare now that the unaffordable impossible Obamacare is being dismantled. I agree we'd do a lot better with our education if we got rid of the leftist-indoctrinated public schools.
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Message 28 of 70 (800443)
02-23-2017 3:06 PM
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02-23-2017 1:57 PM


Re: Not for the media
Yes, what we need is a Socialist Single Payer Health Care system like the civilized nations have.
And what we need are more schools that teach facts instead of the jokes called "Christian Schools" that teach only fantasy and falsehoods. We need to set national standards on subject content, put very tight controls on home schooling, require greater certification for teachers. In other words lets actually fund public schools. Take the public schools out of the hands of locally elected boards of education.

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Faith 
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Message 29 of 70 (800449)
02-23-2017 6:50 PM
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02-23-2017 3:06 PM


education
I don't know why you want tighter controls on homeschooling. Kids who are homeschooled do very well at colege. I happen to know four. One's a nurse in Japan, another has a degree in engineering, the third is about to get a degree in math, wants to be a teacher, and the fourth is getting honors but doesn't have a major yet. I also know a little about Christian schools and they too are academically superior.
Of course this has nothing to do with the military budget.

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Message 30 of 70 (800451)
02-23-2017 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by Faith
02-23-2017 6:50 PM


Re: education
Anecdotes are not evidence. I know some home schooled kids that did fairly well and I know others that dont know much other than the bible. Neither of these examples are evidence of anything.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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