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Omnivorous
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Message 376 of 1639 (771599)
10-27-2015 6:09 PM
Reply to: Message 346 by Faith
10-25-2015 12:33 AM


Faith writes:
"My" doctrine used to be the foundation of this nation, it was the reason for our great success and prosperity and benevolence toward the rest of the world. It was in fact the inspiration for the liberties you now claim and impute to other sources while imputing their loss to me and my doctrines.
You might be surprised to hear that I somewhat agree with you. Protestantism, and especially the Puritans, helped establish the moral and spiritual state and destiny of an individual as of near cosmic significance in western political culture. That notion of the irreducible worth and sovereignty of the individual informed what is best in the founding of our nation.
But it's still not a theocracy. Even if every founder had been a devout Christian, the documents they produced would not have created a theocracy.
Our overt political culture is based on near absolute guarantees of individual rights; our covert culture comprises what really happens. Christianity held covert political power in a near-overt way for a long time, but now we are both more diverse and changed by modernity.
So, okay, thanks for your religion's contribution to our free secular republic. Evangelize people all you like. Don't mess with the Constitution to reestablish Christian cultural hegemony, and we're good. But nobody gets those particular reins again.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence

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Message 377 of 1639 (771610)
10-27-2015 9:21 PM
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10-27-2015 6:09 PM


I've never said it was a theocracy or even thought it.
But thank you for being fair, and above all, nice about it.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 378 of 1639 (771846)
10-30-2015 9:22 PM


Things Rand Paul Doesn't Know, And Doesn't Care That He Doesn't Know
Here.
"I mean, this idiot says the same thing about my speeches," Paul told WaPo. "Do I need to say in my speech, as many people attribute to Thomas Jefferson, but some people dispute, before I give the quote? It’s idiocy, it’s pedantry — it’s ridiculous stuff from partisan hacks.
Yes, Rand Paul, you stupid cockwomble, if you're going to go around saying that Thomas Jefferson said something, it is actually desirable to find out if he said it.
And then there's the classic conservative bullshit, this "some people say this, and some people say that" dodge. Mr. Paul, you appalling asshat, just because there are two opposing views on a subject doesn't mean that reality is optional. It means that one of them is wrong. In this case, it's the people who aren't the Thomas Jefferson Foundation.

  
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Message 379 of 1639 (772056)
11-04-2015 8:23 AM


Jeb Bush the grinder
I watched an interview with Jeb Bush on CNN last night.
Basically, what I got from it was that Jeb is a 'grinder'. When asked what he means with that he answered that he eats nails before breakfast. Huh? What on earth does that mean?
What I also got from that interview was that he loves his daddy and that his daddy loves him. And, oh, he never criticised his brother. And he got elected to be Republican Governor in the biggest swing state in the US, without criticising his brother.
And he doesn't criticise Rubio at all when saying that Rubio doesn't do his job. Apparently, according to Bush, it's not criticism.
If ever this guy gets elected as US President; God helps America. And the rest of the world, too.

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Message 380 of 1639 (772058)
11-04-2015 9:11 AM
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11-04-2015 8:23 AM


Re: Jeb Bush the grinder
Basically, what I got from it was that Jeb is a 'grinder'.
Or maybe he is a big fan of the mobile app:

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Message 381 of 1639 (772060)
11-04-2015 9:47 AM
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11-04-2015 9:11 AM


Re: Jeb Bush the grinder
Apparently it's a site for people who've worked out so much they're too big for their shirts, and are now desperately in search of a good tailor. It's bit of a niche market.

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Message 382 of 1639 (772064)
11-04-2015 10:24 AM
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11-04-2015 8:23 AM


Re: Jeb Bush the grinder
When asked what he means with that he answered that he eats nails before breakfast. Huh?
At work I overheard a hallway conversation about breakfast cereals that are fortified with iron. He related what he had seen on a "Myth Busters" type of TV show. They reduced the fortified cereal down and took a magnet to it. The bottom line was that that added iron was in the form of iron filings.
So then, yeah, I guess that a lot of people do eat nails for breakfast.

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Message 383 of 1639 (772066)
11-04-2015 10:43 AM
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11-04-2015 8:23 AM


Re: Jeb Bush the grinder
Pressie writes:
When asked what he means with that he answered that he eats nails before breakfast. Huh? What on earth does that mean?
It means that he has to tell you what a tough guy he is because otherwise you wouldn't notice. James Bond eats scrambled eggs for breakfast.

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Message 384 of 1639 (772068)
11-04-2015 11:03 AM
Reply to: Message 381 by Dr Adequate
11-04-2015 9:47 AM


Re: Jeb Bush the grinder
It's bit of a niche market.
A bear market, presumably ?

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 385 of 1639 (772070)
11-04-2015 11:52 AM
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11-04-2015 9:47 AM


Re: Jeb Bush the grinder
I have some anatomy that is nearly too big for my shirts, but it is below my ribcage. And I didn't have to work out to grow it.

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Omnivorous
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Message 386 of 1639 (772071)
11-04-2015 12:04 PM
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11-04-2015 11:03 AM


Re: Jeb Bush the grinder
vimesey writes:
Dr writes:
It's bit of a niche market.
A bear market, presumably ?
But with more than a little bull.
Grind is on the move in our linguascape. Recently, high school dances were canceled due to "excessive grinding" at previous events; a blogger on Salon/Slate/Huffpost worried that an excessive focus while pleasuring her partner with 'the pepper grinder' technique was counterproductive; and now Bush is a grinder.
I don't know what it all means, but one of those things doesn't belong there.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence

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ramoss
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Message 387 of 1639 (772073)
11-04-2015 1:07 PM
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11-04-2015 11:03 AM


Re: Jeb Bush the grinder
No, it's a bare market.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 388 of 1639 (772081)
11-05-2015 4:20 AM


Things Ben Carson Doesn't Know
If you thought his comments about evolution were the stupidest thing any human being could possibly say ... nope.

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vimesey
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Message 389 of 1639 (772083)
11-05-2015 5:01 AM
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11-05-2015 4:20 AM


Re: Things Ben Carson Doesn't Know
If you were running a McDonald's, you'd have doubts about employing someone who exhibited that level of stupid.
Yet when it comes to our elected officials (on both sides of the Atlantic), we collectively seem willing to ignore - even reverse - our usual impulse to employ someone to work for us who has at least a modicum of intelligence.
Only ourselves to blame, at the end of the day :-/

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 390 of 1639 (772088)
11-05-2015 11:31 AM
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11-05-2015 5:01 AM


Re: Things Ben Carson Doesn't Know
Ben Carson is not the originator of the believe that the pyramids were for storing grain. I suspect that a few people are actually encouraged to vote for Ben Carson because of his stated belief.
10 Bizarre Theories About The Pyramids That DON'T Involve Aliens
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Medieval Europeans believed the pyramids were granaries described in the Old Testament. Egypt's pharaoh was disturbed by dreams in which seven lean cows devoured seven fat cows and seven withered ears of grain consumed seven healthy ones. Joseph interpreted the dreams to mean that there would be seven years of abundance in Egypt followed by seven years of famine. He advised pharaoh to begin storing surplus grain.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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