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Genomicus Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 852 Joined:
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He may be a bully, but "serial liar?" Yes. He lied about claims regarding undocumented immigrants and their supposed criminality. Then there are the issues regarding Trump University. Here is some sample material from this serial liar: "We (Trump University) have an ‘A’ from the Better Business Bureau." "Right now we’re the highest taxed country in the world." "I never once asked that (Megyn Kelly) be removed as a debate moderator." "The birther movement was started by Hillary Clinton in 2008. She was all in!" "We have 93 million people out of work. They look for jobs, they give up, and all of a sudden, statistically, they're considered employed." Claimed that The Art of the Deal is "the No. 1 selling business book of all time." "Even our nuclear arsenal doesn't work. It came out recently they have equipment that is 30 years old. They don't know if it worked." "Our real unemployment is anywhere from 18 to 20 percent. Don't believe the 5.6. Don't believe it." Etc. etc.
And all the rest of the terms are lies, especially the one about pledging to "BAN" all Muslims, without mentioning that he said UNTIL THEY CAN BE INVESTIGATED. Did Donald Trump repeatedly pledge to ban all Muslims from the country? Yes or no?
AND LET ME POINT OUT: there is some kind of in*sane policy that wants us to take Muslims and NOT let us have the CHRISTIAN refugees who would be more compatible with our culture and FOR SURE aren't going to wreak jihad on us or rape Christian women. Please provide evidence that there is a discriminatory policy where Muslim refugees from Syria are favored over Christian refugees from Syria. And by "our culture," do you mean white, patriarchal, Christian culture?
WHAT KIND OF CONSPIRACY IS THIS ANYWAY? Umm, it's a conspiracy theory that's in your head.
Just the usual Leftist hate-America PC bullying, speaking of bullying. Oh, right. Because if someone is against xenophobic, racist, misogynists than they must hate America, right? Edited by Genomicus, : No reason given.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
he editor's note could have been written by leftists at EvC: My point in mentioning the note was to point out the overstatements. But I note that nothing stopped you from attributing the remarks to the rest of us. But seriously is the birther accusation a lie? Did not Trump threaten to sue Cruz with respect to his eligibility for being president.? Wasn't he the birther in chief with respect to Obama. And what is this about?
and NOT let us have the CHRISTIAN refugees Really? Have you been denied some Christian refugees? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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The editor's note could have been written by leftists at EvC: ... In that every word of it is true?
And all the rest of the terms are lies, especially the one about pledging to "BAN" all Muslims, without mentioning that he said UNTIL THEY CAN BE INVESTIGATED. AND LET ME POINT OUT: Hello, Ms. Crazypants? According to the press release from his campaign: "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on." Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Here.
Amongst other things, he's pretending that Trump Steaks (the brand that failed within months back in 2007) is still in business, by pointing to steaks supplied by Bush Brothers. In retrospect, he should probably have taken the labels off, but apparently all the practice he's had at lying hasn't actually made him good at it. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Well, we Canadians investigate refugees before we let them in too - but we don't single out Muslims. What Trump said is the equivalent of, "We won't hire black people without a background check."
... he said UNTIL THEY CAN BE INVESTIGATED.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
... except that, as I pointed out, the stuff Faith made up is not what Trump said.
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dr Adequate writes:
I'm not interested in playing he said she said with Faith. My point is that her logic is wrong, whether her premise is correct or not.
... except that, as I pointed out, the stuff Faith made up is not what Trump said.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
UNTIL THEY CAN BE INVESTIGATED. AND LET ME POINT OUT: Hello, Ms. Crazypants? According to the press release from his campaign: "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on."
Yes, "until we figure out what is going on." Which implies finding out what dangers there could be. Isn't that pretty obvious? Mr. Crazyhead.
In a written statement late Monday afternoon, the Trump campaign said the Republican frontrunner wanted a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. As backing, Trump cited a controversial six-month-old survey from the right-wing Center for Security Policy finding that one-quarter of U.S. Muslim respondents believed that violence against Americans was justified as part of global jihad and that a slim majority agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah. Donald Trump Calls for Banning Muslim Immigrants - The Atlantic Sounds to me like in context, "figuring out what is going on" means finding out how much danger there could be from people who believe this way. And again, they could give us ALL the Christian refugees. Why won't they do that? Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But so far even the unsupported assertions from that right-wing fascist group do not show any threat or really anything that might not also be true had they surveyed US Christians.
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Faith writes: And again, they could give us ALL the Christian refugees. Why won't they do that? What evidence is there that Christian refugees would be any lesser threat than Muslim refugees? Remember there is absolutely no evidence that any immigrants are more likely to commit a violent crime than natural US Citizens. Edited by jar, : see AbE: Edited by jar, : that --> thanAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Yes, "until we figure out what is going on." Which implies finding out what dangers there could be. But he has in fact called for a complete ban on Muslims entering the country, hasn't he? This is true, isn't it?
And again, they could give us ALL the Christian refugees. Why won't they do that? Because "ALL the Christian refugees" haven't tried to come here? Who is meant to "give" them to us? What if they'd rather be in Lebanon?
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
.....until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. Fat chance of that happening.....
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9142 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
And again, they could give us ALL the Christian refugees. Why won't they do that?
Are you saying that christians can't be terrorists or security risks?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
LMAO will this be enough for people to see trump is a conman. He faked the stuff he had on the stage and branded it as his. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that. |
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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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AND LET ME POINT OUT: there is some kind of in*sane policy that wants us to take Muslims and NOT let us have the CHRISTIAN refugees who would be more compatible with our culture and FOR SURE aren't going to wreak jihad on us or rape Christian women.
Yes, that is an insane policy. It is also totally made up bullshit. There is no such policy. Hmm, what was it that you were saying about "liar"?Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Quoting the Donald:
"Our real unemployment is anywhere from 18 to 20 percent. Don't believe the 5.6. Don't believe it." Not that I've investigated it personally, but this may be substantially true. There are a lot of unemployed that are not part of the official unemployed count. Moose Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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