Favorable Mutations? Help me!!

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Since I was not allowed to open a topic of this subject, I ask it in this topic and hope that anyone see it.I wonder if anyone is familiar with what kind of changes of the hox genes that are responsible for a new family, order or class to evolve? Ive heard that changes in the downstream region of hox genes is caracteristic for species within a family. For different families in the same order, for example dogs, cats or bears, Ive heard that it is mutations within the hox genes themselves. What about bigger morphological differences, such as between whales and artiodactyles? What differs there?If someone also has information on how a gradient of cell growth rate of a particular tissue is affected by different types of mutations in a certain hox gene, I would be grateful. For example: Why the chimps hip-bones are longer than ours due to a hox gene mutation.

Windsor castleYou topic was promoted. Biological Evolution is broken and BE II doesn't appear on the all forums list. Therefore you probably missed it.

there's this girl... i don't remember her name. i saw her on some goofy tv show for kids.anywaysshe was born in africa to missionary or scientist parents or something (she's a whitey) and had a pet monkey as a young kid. she used to chase this pet monkey up trees and such. through this activity, she grew longer than normal arms and longer than normal fingers with large knuckles (she looks like a monkey.) i'd call that a mutation, while not a genetic one. now she's a world champion rock climber. it was beneficial for the circumstances she put herself in (climbing all the time). her body didn't know this was for fun and not for survival.

Intersting story but, by definition, that's not a mutation."a. a relatively permanent change in hereditary material involving either a physical change in chromosome relations or a biochemical change in the codons that make up genes; also : the process of producing a mutation.b : an individual strain or trait resulting from mutation"

like i said. not a genetic mutation... at least not a hereditary one. it is possibly a reflection of a somatic cell mutation, however.

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What?!Fred Williams said:
"A huge cost is incurred in efficiency, and thus in a normal environment the mutated strain could not last long..."It's called specialization, of course it doesn't do well in a natural enviroment, that's why an unnatural environment is it's prefference, because it does better there. It is an example of a normally unfavorable mutation allowing it to spread and live in a new environment.A more apt point would be what are the chances of a bacteria mutating and living of nylon, it better supports the incredible ability of mutation to allow an organism to adapt to it's environment, I'm actually quite impressed with it, I had underestimated mutation's ability to react so quickly, though with prokayrotic organisms it is probably simpler to do so.

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Thanks John... a nice short and simple explanation of why sickle cell is adaptive. Sickle cell is represented as a disease particularly in the U.S. because a number of people carry the gene and because of low infant mortality we see the problems involved when someone inherits both genes.In earlier Africa, inheriting one gene would serve to dampen malaria's effect and incidence. Inheriting both genes would mean early death, which would not be as significant to a premodern non medical culture where I suspect both a high birth rate and high infant mortality rate occured.As to Fred's comment about ' only evolutionists would use the example of disease,etc'... shows a lack of understanding that adaptation to disease is one of the strongest mechanisms for directing natural selection in organisms.One man's disease is another man's adaptation.ABBmessage edited to change message subtitleThis message has been edited by Arkansas Banana Boy, 02-14-2005 00:10 AM