Why do I think kuresu is right?

Heh...Well, perhaps if I did get off my lazy ass and do a bit of reseach myself I may very well be able to verify such a thing.But that's sort of counter-productive with what I'm trying to explore here.I'd really rather this not turn into a "who really has objective evidence behind their position" discussion.
I'm sure we all agree that objective evidence carries a lot more weight than subjective experience when honestly trying to find the truth.I only chose that particular debate as the example because I really don't know much about politics. I'm really not interested in "the truth" behind kuresu's and dronester's debate.What I'm more intereseted in, for this thread, are any and all reasons why I'm irrationally leaning towards kuresu. What makes me say "hey... I think kuresu is right.." when I don't know if kuresu is really "backing his shit up with real world facts" or not? (Regardless of whether or not he may actually be doing so in the example debate).

Community cohesiveness has been quite alive all along here in EvC town. Most non-cohesive minded immigrants find citizenship too challenging to participate without becomimg cohesive with the community. I've done a lot of tiptoeing among the cohesive community tulips here for survival these past six years; been down and out for the count a couple of times but still breathing and taking on nourishment by God's providence.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Perhaps some of the reasons you choose Kuresu are not so irrational. He has the ability to intelligently articulate his points in a reasonably concise manner. He's tough but usually fair handed in dealing with the issues.If the man's ideology wasn't so awry, he'd be great! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Buz, this is truly be a miracle. Two posts in one thread that i agree with(Even one post would have been a miracle though!). I think this, along with the tribe, are the primary reasons.While Kuresu manageges to explain his reasoning and arguments in perfectly formatted (And if your a typesetting nazi like I, that means a lot. Though that dosen't show in my posts here on EvC. We need LaTeX support on EvC ;-)) and grammar correct text, dronesters are, though not as bad a the majority of the interwebs, not so good.Kuresus arguments (In the Obama thread) is clear, the arguments reason is clear.
Dronesters arguments (In the obama thread) seem vague, inconsistent and shady.Dronester btw, i realise this almost seems like i have something against your posts, i do not! I enjoy and appreciate your posts and see you as one of the good guys on this forum.Edited by rbp, : No reason given.Edited by rbp, : Corrected "alot" to "a lot". I heard Rrhains gets pretty pissed if you write "alot".

Ah, I see I'm on a Rbp roll. I'll try for a three for three Rbp jackpot: (LOL on that) Perhaps the most irrational behavior in these forums is driven by ideology. For example, no matter how much corroborative evidence I cite relative to the messianic prophecies of the Middle East, relative to Exodus or relative to anything which is supportive to what is considered miraculous or supernatural, 99 to 100% of resident secularist minded members of this board will deny the event whether they are able to refute the evidence or not. The reason for this is that if any secularist admits to just one miracle, it throws a monkey wrench into their ideology.In the Middle East prophecy thread quite often this is evidenced by the number of replies I have received which specify nothing substantive relative to the points in the message to which the reply applied.Too often the counterpart messages are nothing but statements to the effect that Buz is stupid, Buz just quotes scripture, Buz's source is poor, these are no better than non-Biblical prophets, folks have been saying so for centuries, Buz's reasoning is naive or generalities like that.Imo, this kind of irrational posting is more prevalent on the part of the majority POV than on the part of the minority simply because the moderation has an irrational tendency to protect their own cohesive community (as per Kuresu) than to protect those outside of the cohesive community who are essentially (ideological aliens) in the minds of the community. Irrational behavior practiced by Biblicalists is less tolerated by the community majority than that practiced by members of the ideological cohesive community.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Perhaps the most irrational behavior in these forums is driven by ideology. For example, no matter how much corroborative evidence I cite relative to the messianic prophecies of the Middle East, relative to Exodus or relative to anything which is supportive to what is considered miraculous or supernatural, 99 to 100% of resident secularist minded members of this board will deny the event whether they are able to refute the evidence or not. The reason for this is that if any secularist admits to just one miracle, it throws a monkey wrench into their ideology.

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Of course really irrational behaviour would be repeating refuted bullshit time and time again - and expecting people to believe it. And then whining that your opponents are "irrational" for preferring the truth.For instance you'll claim that the Bible predicts a currency system based on marks and numbers. When it really says no such thing - you're extrapolating way beyond the text. Then you'll say that such a system is coming although you have no real evidence that it is - or that if it did that it would match the Biblical verses you have in mind either. ANd you'll call that "solid empirical evidence". It isn't. Solid, it isn't empirical and it isn't evidence. It's just wild and implausible speculation.There are other examples -to name one there is your continued reliance on Wyatt's claims despite a complete lack of hard evidence for them - and a whole lot of evidence that Wyatt is less than trustworthy (or even competent). Yet you keep on plugging them despite the fact that they have been quite thoroughly dealt with already.You refer to the Middle East prophecy thread. Of course you don't mention that you started it to evade a challenge. Nor do you mention the solid replies you did get - and were unable to refute. I guess that your irrational ideology won't permit you to mention those facts.

Why humans choose. I will admit, quite the worthy avenue for examination! Perhaps when we find the answers here, we can apply them to the age-old, oft-quoted, ever-important issue of why Jon chose the grilled chicken, even though all foot longs are now $5.Really though? People choose. What we do about the choice is far more important to our time on Earth.Jon

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You've been Gremled!

If we can identify why/how we make irrational choices, then we will be more aptly prepared for guarding against them. Especially for any decisions where rationality is desired. Of course people choose. But it's not always easy to know if you're making an irrational or rational decision. Knowing such things is important if you care about following reality over imagination.But, if you don't care about following imagination, then no, this isn't important to know at all. The importance of pretty much everything depends on your priorities. Most intelligent people are able to choose their priorities to some degree. Such decisions, again, can be rational or irrational. Which one is preferred is up to the individual.Personally, I am very concerned with being able to acknowledge irrational decision-making processes. This way I can prevent such things, if desired. I understand if you don't think such a thing is important. But, well, I don't really care what you think And I appreciate everyone's input in this thread so far. It's helped me to clarify my thinking.