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Percy Member Posts: 22490 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Occasionally we have members who use or reveal their real name while complaining that others here are being less than forthright by being anonymous. An article in today's Times describes some real life examples of the downside of using your real identity on the web:
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Phat Member Posts: 18335 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
This whole idea of public shaming, revitalized since days of yore, is in my opinion totally unfair. Whatever happened to freedom of speech?
How dare some wag on twitter hijack one of our tweets and get us fired for some random insensitive comment we might have made?Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: How dare some wag on twitter hijack one of our tweets and get us fired for some random insensitive comment we might have made? Maybe because you made some random insensitive comment?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Jon Inactive Member |
Whatever happened to freedom of speech? It's still there. But so is the fact that people may not like the speech and hate you for speaking it.
This whole idea of public shaming, revitalized since days of yore, is in my opinion totally unfair. Days of yore? You must mean yesterday, when neighborhood gossip groups were still shunning the folks who have the audacity to order something from Amazon and have it delivered in an unmarked box. Love your enemies!
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
This whole idea of public shaming, revitalized since days of yore, is in my opinion totally unfair. Whatever happened to freedom of speech? The public shaming is bad, yes. But when did freedom of speech evolve to mean that there are no consequences for what you say?
How dare some wag on twitter hijack one of our tweets What does hijack mean in this circumstance? It seems to mean taking a public tweet and distributing it to some more of the public. If you only want your friends to read something, aren't there much better ways to accomplish that than tweeting?Je Suis Charlie Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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Phat Member Posts: 18335 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Since when does the public have a right to judge my character through interpretation of something I said to the extent of forcing my employer to get rid of me? My point is that these people are taking on the role of judge and jury over others whom they have never even met!
Granted one should never say something publicly that they would regret anyone hearing. Still...I think it is not the public's business to be judge and jury concerning people who never get a fair hearing.Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Did you say "Granted one should never say something publicly that they would regret anyone hearing. "?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Phat Member Posts: 18335 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Yes.
Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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Phat Member Posts: 18335 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Jon writes: No I meant this:
Days of yore? You must mean yesterday, when neighborhood gossip groups were still shunning the folks who have the audacity to order something from Amazon and have it delivered in an unmarked box. quote: My point is that the whole idea of public shame is a biased and unfair campaign against any given individual who has heretofore been found innocent.Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo It's easy to see the speck in somebody else's ideas - unless it's blocked by the beam in your own.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden.(Leo Tolstoy)
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Jon Inactive Member |
My point is that the whole idea of public shame is a biased and unfair campaign against any given individual who has heretofore been found innocent. None of that applies, Phat. The woman posted a public message. She got a public reaction. If she didn't want the public involved in her life, then she shouldn't have brought them into it in the first place. ABE: YM Edited by Jon, : No reason given.Love your enemies!
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member
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There's a difference between:
I don't disagree that the public was being a bunch of twats by responding as they did. But that public, she a fickle bitch. You best be careful out there.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1431 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Occasionally we have members who use or reveal their real name while complaining that others here are being less than forthright by being anonymous. An article in today's Times describes some real life examples of the downside of using your real identity on the web: A good rule of thumb for the internet is not to put anything in print that you do not want to see on the front page of your local paper or your bosses desk. Another good rule of thumb is to be overly cautious about jokes, especially sarcasm -- there are many Sheldon Coopers out there who will take what you write at face value ... even if you think you are just trading sarcastic comments with friends. It's like Big Bang theory where they hold up signs "Sarcasm, Sheldon" -- I use /sarcasm on facebook and here. Edited by RAZD, : by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8551 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Whatever happened to freedom of speech? Two concepts of "freedom of speech". The official First Amendment kind: It is still alive and well. The government did not throw her in jail. No problem. The Pop Culture version: It is alive and well, too. Freedom of speech means being able say what you want. That also goes for those who will take your drivelings, publicize them, sneer at them and publicly beat you over the head with them. That is freedom of speech as well. This pop version of free speech does not protect anyone from the public backlash when you say something stupid. The public backlash is also freedom of speech. The problem here is not the shaming, which may be well deserved, but is the sheer joy some scum have in a constant campaign of threat and intimidation to destroy the person. My opinion, when the destruction campaigns start the scumbags involved need to be publicly chastised, labeled as bullies, humiliated and put on the shame block themselves.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Here's a response to that article:
I Don't Feel Sorry for Stupid White People on the Internet quote: Really? Taking it at face value is really the only thing left to do? How retarded is that?
quote: Oh wow, what a stupid bitch. People who make tasteless jokes don't have empathy!? Really!? Judge much? God I hate these people.
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