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Author Topic:   True scripture doesn't say you were created
goldenlightArchangel
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Message 1 of 3 (424110)
09-25-2007 4:49 PM


Original scripture doesn't say you were made out of nothing
Hi,
Original order of the paragraph:
In the beginning the earth was formless and empty, darkness covered the surface of the watery depths, and the living electricity of Jehaveh was hovering over the surface of the waters. Then Jehaveh said, "Let there be light" and there was light. Jehaveh saw that the light was good, and Jehaveh separated the light from the darkness.
The words ' . god/elohim created the heaven and the earth'
originated from a short introduction subtitle made by the scribes.
Evidence -- The living Word of flaming white light that shines across the density of the clouds did not self-designate by the term god/elohim but by the Ancient Hebrew Verb To Be --Jeháv-Jehavéh - I AM THAT I AM --.
The origin of the antique Roman word creare --to form out of nothing-- reveals the term creation to be a Catholicist belief: the belief that he/she would have been created --made out of nothing--.
source: Creation out of Nothing - . god who dwells in the heavens, and made out of nothing the things that exist, and multiplied ... on the first day god made what he made out of nothing. ...www.catholic.com/library/Creation
True scripture does not say the human body was made out of nothing. -- The nutrients and properties of the dust of the ground already existed.
I. - The dust was not created--made out of nothing. The earth was already empty and formless.
II. - The human body was designed and formed from the properties and nutrients that already existed in the continuous sequence of the times that terminate.
..formed the human body out of the dust from the ground
Also, true scripture does not say the living electricity--spirit in your body was created or made out of nothing.
Your spirit was not created. -- The quickening spirit from a living breath already existed:
..and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the human body became a *being vivified by spirit.
* a soul with quickening breath of spirit
This belongs in Intelligent Design
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : subtitle
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : archaic creare
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : original
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : light
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : quickening

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10-02-2007 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by goldenlightArchangel
09-25-2007 4:49 PM


Re: Original scripture doesn't say you were made out of nothing
Unfortunately, I'm not inclined to promote this topic.
I don't feel it will lead to a lively discussion. The semantics of the word created have been done and those threads tend to die out quickly.
I don't see a unique twist to hold the discussion.
Again I'm not inclined to promote this proposed topic and if another Admin doesn't take up your cause, I will close this proposal on Wednesday.
Thanks
AdminPD

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