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ramoss
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Message 1 of 22 (629523)
08-18-2011 10:22 AM


For those people who have seen rants here, a piece of news

http://www.cbc.ca/.../2011/08/17/twitter-threats-arrest.html

Montreal police say they've made an arrest in a case involving threats made on the internet. The threats allegedly target atheists and people in the scientific community.

In a news release, police say they've arrested a suspect but have few other details.

They launched an investigation into the online activity of a Montreal man following a deluge of complaints from around the world about his alleged habit of threatening people online.

More than 3,000 people signed a petition calling on police to investigate reports of death threats against atheists and secularists.

Some people allegedly being threatened said the Montrealer, who goes by the online moniker "David Mabus" among a number of pseudonyms, has been at it for nearly two decades.

Police were so inundated with complaints about the man last week that they pleaded with the public to stop contacting them and promised to investigate.

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Put the "a" into "Mbus" in topic title.


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Mr Jack
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Message 2 of 22 (629524)
08-18-2011 10:32 AM


Wow.
  
fearandloathing
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Message 3 of 22 (629526)
08-18-2011 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by ramoss
08-18-2011 10:22 AM


Moose provided a good link with lots of info in this Message 18. Here it is again below.

http://skeptools.wordpress.com/...-tumblr-social-media-mabus

I hope he gets some help and meds, but if the legal system in Canada is the same as here then he will probably fall through the cracks and get a little jail time or maybe just probation. Jails here are full of crazy people who receive minimal mental health treatment. A lot of homeless people have mental problems, these same problems that keep them from being able to hold a job and lead a normal life also end up putting them in jail or prison, although it seems DM has held a job. It is truly sad that it took so long for police to act, and now that they have he may still not get the help he needs.

I feel sorry for whoever might have to share a cell with him.

Edited by fearandloathing, : fix link


"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
— Hunter S. Thompson

Ad astra per aspera

Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.


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fearandloathing
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Message 4 of 22 (629800)
08-20-2011 4:21 AM


16 Charges and a mental evaluation
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The Montreal man who had been wanted by police for allegedly making online death threats against people all over the world appeared in court on Friday to face 16 charges.

Known online as “David Mabus”, Dennis Markuze of St. Laurent has been charged with uttering death threats and for criminally harassing seven victims.

Two charges were laid against him Wednesday -- and an additional 14 were added on Friday.

Markuze has been sent for a 30-day psychological evaluation at Montreal’s Pinel Institute and will appear in court again on Sept. 19.

Read it on Global News: Global Montreal | Montreal's 'Mabus' faces 16 charges for online threats


Read more...

Well at least he might get some help.


"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
— Hunter S. Thompson

Ad astra per aspera

Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.


    
ProtoTypical
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Message 5 of 22 (629820)
08-20-2011 8:58 AM


Good for the goose...
Assuming that Markuze’s inspiration and guiding light is the bible and it’s many examples of killing and judgement and retribution against those who would deny God. Is there not some element of hypocrisy in our system that would have him swear his oath on the bible before prosecuting him for following it’s examples?
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Message 6 of 22 (629822)
08-20-2011 9:01 AM
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08-20-2011 8:58 AM


Re: Good for the goose...
Of course not.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 7 of 22 (629829)
08-20-2011 10:08 AM
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08-20-2011 9:01 AM


Re: Good for the goose...
Of course not.

Oh, I see my problem. I will have to get these fixed.


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Message 8 of 22 (629966)
08-21-2011 3:23 PM
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08-20-2011 10:08 AM


Re: Good for the goose...
I wonder how long it took the police to realize he's a paranoid schizophrenic and dropped the charges.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Message 9 of 22 (629970)
08-21-2011 4:10 PM
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08-21-2011 3:23 PM


Re: Good for the goose...
The police have not dropped any charges. In fact they added 14 more. As I understand it the nut is on 30 days psyche eval before he goes back to court.
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Message 10 of 22 (630040)
08-22-2011 4:46 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Hyroglyphx
08-21-2011 3:23 PM


Death threats to cops!
Hyroglyphx writes:

I wonder how long it took the police to realize he's a paranoid schizophrenic and dropped the charges.

I think they know that. When the Montreal police got involved in the twitter discussion, Mabus, in the course of automatically including all addresses involved on his mailing list, ended up inadvertently sending them his little works of art. No kidding!

Although sickness isn't a funny subject, it's hard not to laugh at that little episode. The cops got the dead crow picture, BTW, amongst other stuff.


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Message 11 of 22 (680542)
11-19-2012 10:04 PM


Arrested again
Dennis Markuse has been arrested again, this time for violating the terms of his probation.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung


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Message 12 of 22 (680545)
11-19-2012 11:28 PM
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11-19-2012 10:04 PM


Re: Arrested again
I'm sorry to hear it.

My younger brother has lived with paranoid schizophrenia for almost 40 years.

Keeping him on his meds--and off intoxicants--is an endless, frustrating battle.


"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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Message 13 of 22 (680546)
11-19-2012 11:36 PM
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11-19-2012 11:28 PM


Re: Arrested again
It's quite a dilemma. On the one hand, there's no doubt that as a society we cannot let people go running around making threats against others. On the other, mental health issues are not really something that most criminal justice systems are well equipped to deal with. (I readily acknowledge my lack of information specifically related to the Canadian system so would welcome a correction from someone with more information than me.)

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung


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Message 14 of 22 (680547)
11-20-2012 12:00 AM
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11-19-2012 11:36 PM


Re: Arrested again
I know many societies struggle with the conflict between an individual's right to refuse treatment and the social interest in effective medication--especially since there are no true pharmaceutical cures, while debilitating side-effects are common. Still, the disease erodes the very grounds of personal sovereignty.

I know many states in the U.S. have laws that permit some form of compulsory treatment, but I don't think they have the long-term, amply-funded programs that would be effective.

Like many other weary relatives of schizophrenics, I've found myself thinking, "Why can't they just make him take his meds?"

But I'm also leery of allowing the state to force mind and mood altering drugs on anyone.


"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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Message 15 of 22 (680548)
11-20-2012 12:03 AM
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11-19-2012 11:28 PM


Re: Arrested again
I know someone who is strongly bi-polar, and one thing the mania does is drive insomnia. The alcohol hits the same receptors in the brain that some of the sleeping medications do, and has a calming effect. When they were off the meds (no insurance) , getting 'drunk' actually made them become sober...

They managed to get medicade when they moved here, and as soon as they started the meds, they had no desire to drink anymore.


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