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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Well, then, lobby for the ERA. That way employers would be legally required to pay women equal pay for equal work. How ignorant of you to think I don't. I don't have a problem with anyone getting paid what they deserve.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Goes back much further than that, but I fail to see what that has to do with anything we are talking about here.
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U can call me Cookie Member (Idle past 4980 days) Posts: 228 From: jo'burg, RSA Joined: |
Never said it didn't go back further...
The essense of S & M lies in the Dominant-Submissive dynamic.Come now RR, one doesn't have to read between the lines to see it. "The good Christian should beware the mathematician and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of hell." - St. Augustine
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
I don't know, I don't see the woman portrayed in that ad to be voluntarily submissive.
It doesn't really portray S&M to me.
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U can call me Cookie Member (Idle past 4980 days) Posts: 228 From: jo'burg, RSA Joined: |
Geez, RR, i know you've read the article since you're the one who posted it!
I'm not commenting on the picture, i'm commenting on the content of the article. Clearly portrays the dominant-submissive dynamic that was the expected norm at the time. See, now you've gone and turned a one-liner into...well... more than one line Edited by U can call me Cookie, : No reason given. "The good Christian should beware the mathematician and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of hell." - St. Augustine
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CK Member (Idle past 4154 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
Earlier than that in popular American culture - The Wonderwoman comic had a S&M subtext, she'd be tied up, tied down every adventure (sometimes several times an adventure):
Edited by CK, : No reason given.
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U can call me Cookie Member (Idle past 4980 days) Posts: 228 From: jo'burg, RSA Joined: |
That's brilliant, societal subversion by the most patriotic of female super-heroines...
Mind you, who wouldn't want to tie down Wonderwoman... "The good Christian should beware the mathematician and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of hell." - St. Augustine
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CK Member (Idle past 4154 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
The creator was an interesting chap:
quote: quote: William Moulton Marston - Wikipedia
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
About male readers, he later wrote: "Give them an alluring woman stronger than themselves to submit to, and they'll be proud to become her willing slaves!" However I never fully comprehended the alluring nature of "Little Maggie" that you folk seemed to see. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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nator Member (Idle past 2197 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: How are Christian marriages affected if gay marriages are recognized by the government? Nobody is forcing Christians to change their morality. It is Christians that are forcing their morality onto civil marriage by discriminating against ga marriage. Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given. "Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends! Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!" - Ned Flanders "Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1531 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
Men are superfulous today. Woman lead men in education and college enrollment. They are preparing for the take over of the world. The age of Gynarchy has come!!!!!!
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Alright, I am sorry then.
I just didn't see it that way.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
How are Christian marriages affected if gay marriages are recognized by the government? That has nothing to do with what I said or this thread, stop it.
Nobody is forcing Christians to change their morality. When did I say they were? Also off-topic
It is Christians that are forcing their morality onto civil marriage by discriminating against ga marriage. Marriage has traditionally been between a man and a woman for a very long time. Change does not come easy. Although I have decided to live and let live, I think others need convincing that people are genetically gay, and deserve the same rights based on something they cannot change about themselves. I also wouldn't use the term Christians, and would use the term people. Since we cannot determine what a true Christian is, and that there are Christians who are fine with it, then you have to stop discrimination, and lumoing all Christians into a category, it's called predjudice.
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CK Member (Idle past 4154 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
quote: What if they just like being gay? what's the issue then?
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nator Member (Idle past 2197 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: But they are being kept from advancing to the highest levels of power and influence in their professions, including, but not limited to, academia.
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