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Percy
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Message 121 of 478 (781065)
03-31-2016 8:49 AM
Reply to: Message 116 by petrophysics1
03-30-2016 1:54 PM


Re: Hillary and Fracking?
petrophysics1 writes:
Yes, try reading what they said........instead of the journalist.
Okay, I've gone and read the USGS's Induced Earthquakes Raise Chances of Damaging Shaking in 2016. The only difference I can see is that the USGS article doesn't say that the wastewater injected into the ground contains salt. Is that the difference your concerned about? Because if so it's a minor point. The main point is that millions of gallons of wastewater injected into the ground is causing earthquakes. Whether there's salt in that wastewater is beside the point when it comes to earthquakes.
--Percy

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ringo
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Message 122 of 478 (781071)
03-31-2016 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 118 by dronestar
03-30-2016 3:54 PM


Re: Hillary and Fracking?
drone writes:
Actually I am starting to feel quite foolish to even raise Bush Jr's invasion of another country based on lies as being "immoral."
How is Hillary Clinton criminally responsible for what Dubya Bush did?

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dronestar
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Message 123 of 478 (781072)
03-31-2016 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 120 by Percy
03-31-2016 8:24 AM


Re: Hillary and Fracking?
Why soitenly . . .
Message 76

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dronestar
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Message 124 of 478 (781073)
03-31-2016 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 122 by ringo
03-31-2016 11:48 AM


Re: Hillary and Fracking?
RingO writes:
How is Hillary Clinton criminally responsible for what Dubya Bush did?
Message 76

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ringo
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Message 125 of 478 (781076)
03-31-2016 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by dronestar
03-31-2016 12:07 PM


Re: Hillary and Fracking?
drone writes:
ringo writes:
How is Hillary Clinton criminally responsible for what Dubya Bush did?
Message 76
So you're saying that support for the war in Iraq is a war crime? That's really, really thin.
I personally think the invasion of Iraq was unjustified but calling it "illegal" and "immoral" is pretty silly. And calling one American politician of the many who supported the war a "war criminal" is even sillier.

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dronestar
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Message 126 of 478 (781077)
03-31-2016 12:50 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by ringo
03-31-2016 12:35 PM


Re: Hillary and Fracking?
RingO writes:
I personally think the invasion of Iraq was unjustified but calling it "illegal" and "immoral" is pretty silly.
Wow.
Besides Kofi Annan, former United Nations Secretary-General, I would guess this Iraqi woman below would call you an idiot:

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ringo
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Message 127 of 478 (781078)
03-31-2016 12:52 PM
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03-31-2016 12:50 PM


Re: Hillary and Fracking?
drone writes:
Besides Kofi Annan, former United Nations Secretary-General, I would guess this Iraqi woman below would call you an idiot:
How does one war qualify as "immoral" and others don't?

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jar
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Message 128 of 478 (781080)
03-31-2016 1:01 PM
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03-31-2016 12:50 PM


Re: Hillary and Fracking?
Droneon writes:
Besides Kofi Annan, former United Nations Secretary-General, I would guess this Iraqi woman below would call you an idiot:
And what do either of those have to do with whether or not it was illegal or immoral?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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dronestar
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Message 129 of 478 (781081)
03-31-2016 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by jar
03-31-2016 1:01 PM


Re: Hillary and Fracking?
Jar writes:
And what do either of those have to do with whether or not it was illegal or immoral?
Edited by dronestar, : Jar, not RingO

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jar
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Message 130 of 478 (781082)
03-31-2016 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by dronestar
03-31-2016 1:07 PM


Re: Hillary and Fracking?
Yet I note you did not answer the question as usual. So again, what do either of those have to do with whether or not the Iraq war was illegal or immoral?
AbE: or either Hilary or Fracking?
Edited by jar, : see AbE:

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Percy
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Message 131 of 478 (781083)
03-31-2016 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by dronestar
03-31-2016 12:07 PM


Re: Hillary and Fracking?
People are already questioning how anything you describe Hillary Clinton doing in Message 76 represents war crimes, and you're just being evasive. War crimes *does* have a definition, why don't you use it?
You have a bunch of reasons why Hillary Clinton shouldn't be president - they're better discussed than misrepresented.
--Percy

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vimesey
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Message 132 of 478 (781085)
03-31-2016 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 131 by Percy
03-31-2016 2:00 PM


Re: Hillary and Fracking?
War crimes *does* have a definition
Indeed. The decision of The Hague today ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35933468 ) in the case of Vojislav Seselj is interesting in this regard.
In relation to the murders, tortures and other crimes committed in the Balkans by the volunteers he raised, for example, the Court found him not guilty in relation to those crimes, because the Court found that he neither knew of them, nor ordered or endorsed them.
And he was the deputy prime minister of Serbia during the worst of the Kosovo atrocities.
The Court has a higher hurdle to war criminality, than simply being a politician who is in favour of the war.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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dronestar
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Message 133 of 478 (781087)
03-31-2016 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 131 by Percy
03-31-2016 2:00 PM


Re: Hillary and Fracking?
Percy writes:
People are already questioning how anything you describe Hillary Clinton doing in Message 76 represents war crimes
"People"?
*Chuckle*
TWO participants.
You make it sound like there is a mob outside my office demanding I tell them where I hid the embezzled money.
Jar is a serial troller. I will decide if I bother to reply to his inanity or not, thank you.
I generally like Ringo's posts, but I notice when he is losing an argument, he skips all over trying in vain to find a weakness, no matter how small or technically inconsequential. Again, my time and patience has limitations, and I am under no obligation to reply to his every imaginable post.
Percy writes:
and you're just being evasive.
*chuckle*
I write a 'million' word essay Message 76 with uncountable diverse set of facts supporting my stance, and you have the audacity to say I am being evasive? Because I won't entertain 'adults' who can read and comprehend my long post, but choose not to?
Pfft.
Percy writes:
You have a bunch of reasons why Hillary Clinton shouldn't be president - they're better discussed than misrepresented.
Okay. Go ahead, discuss them.

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dronestar
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Message 134 of 478 (781088)
03-31-2016 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by vimesey
03-31-2016 2:59 PM


Re: Hillary and Fracking?
vimsey writes:
The Court has a higher hurdle to war criminality, than simply being a politician who is in favour of the war.
(And Percy wonders why . . .)

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vimesey
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Message 135 of 478 (781089)
03-31-2016 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by dronestar
03-31-2016 3:45 PM


Re: Hillary and Fracking?
Your usual unintelligent attempt at condescension.
Have a go at an intelligent, reasoned response to my point, using your own words, and not cut and pastes from your favourite sources.
You might find yourself thinking a little.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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