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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I think they thought of transplant of live tissue instead of replacement by artificial prosthetic then believed the doctor was lying when he tried to explain. For some people reality is not an impediment to their deeply felt illusions. Sound familiar M'Lady? Please don't ask me to read your mind. But it does remind me of illusions such as the ToE and the OE and atheism if that's what you mean.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5949 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
... that the donor's orientation concerns the possibility of getting HIV or AIDS in a blood transfusion. Since I assume they screen the blood for that (I hope) then orientation is meaningless. They do screen blood donations along with identifying at-risk donors through the questionaires. I don't remember when it started, but it was more explicit in the Navy Reserve where maintaining readiness to mobilize was of paramount importance. We were required to undergo annual physical examinations which, once a blood test was developed, included an annual HIV test. When I was the XO and acting CO of a reserve unit in my last decade of service, the annual HIV test was one of the important items that we would track. The following is intended more for lurkers. A German TV series has aired on Sundance: Deutschland 83, Deutschland 86, and the upcoming final season, Deutschland 89. Based around a fictional East German Volkspolizist turned into a relucant spy in the West codename "Kolibri" ("Hummingbird"), it also examines East/West politics and events at the time as well as important events. For example, key to Deutschland 83 was an upcoming NATO exercise, Able Archer 83, which included the simulated launch of Pershing II nuclear missiles, scheduled to be deployed in West Germany, by the Bundeswehr. The Soviet Union feared that that exercise was a ruse to mask a first strike against them (Russians have a long history of national border-defense paranoia and for good reason), so they created Operation RYAN (Raketno-Yadernoe Napadenie (Russian: - , "Nuclear Missile Attack"), itself a first strike attack against the West to preclude our own perceived first strike against them. Of course, in the show Kolibri saves the day and the world, but that incident is considered by some to have brought us much closer to nuclear war than the Cuban Missile Crisis did. The events of Deutschland 86 were a bit different, mainly involving Libyan terrorism (eg, the discothque bombing in Berlin and the retaliatory Operation El Dorado Canyon air strike) and East Germany's attempts to deal with its economic problems after the Soviet Union stopped supporting them. Some of the schemes were medical, such as using East German patients as test subjects for the West's drug trials much more cheaply than could have been done in the West (ain't capitalism great?). Pertinent to this discussion was the issue of ensuring against HIV-infected blood transfusions, which tells me that as of 1986 there was probably not yet a reliable test for HIV. East Germany claimed that its blood supply was pure because they did not have a "homosexual problem". On that basis, they were able to sell East German blood to the West. But once it was exposed that even East German blood could be infected, that revenue source dried up (or coagulated, if you would). In another scheme as depicted in the show, a central character (a high-ranking Stasi officer who had forced Kolibri to become a spy as well as being Kolibri's estranged father) was a fan of the West German TV show, Das Traumschiff (literally "The Dream Boat", but it's more like "The Love Boat") -- another German TV show on Netflix, The Same Sky (apparently also on Amazon), depicts that at least in 1974 East Germans were no allowed to watch West German TV such that they would keep track of which direction your TV antenna was pointed. The German Wikipedia page for Das Traumschiff reports that they switched to a new ship in 1986, which meant that their old ship was up for sale. This Stasi officer's idea was to buy the old ship to use as a moral incentive for East German workers, whereas the lower decks would be refitted to contain contraband military cargo from West Germany for such destinations as South Africa (which was being embargoed at that time). And in all those discussions the woman pushing for these revenue-gathering schemes would tout them as "Das ist eine Win-Win Situation." while all the die-hard communists in the room would squirm at becoming capitalists. Regarding the scenes about Operation El Dorado Canyon, a young US diplomat to East Germany is living on the economy with his wife. Their next-door neighbor is the aforementioned Stasi officer, which is what they had been briefed to expect. When they move in, he offers them the traditional housewarming gifts of bread and salt -- the bread in hopes that they never go hungry and salt that their life there would have flavor (or so I seem to gather). They accept having no idea what's going on, but she gives him some chocolate chip cookies she had just baked and he accepts having no idea what's going on. Later, Operation El Dorado Canyon hits in the middle of the night. The diplomat receives a phone call at 0200 or 0300 to come to the office immediately. As he exits his apartment, he stands face-to-face with his Stasi neighbor who is doing the same thing. They look at each other in silence. Then in silence they both walk to the elevator, ride it down to the ground floor (their first floor is our second), and exit the building to the sidewalk in silence. Then they look at each other one more time in silence and turn in opposite directions to go to their respective offices. According to my Roku (which I recently had to buy in order to keep using Netflix), Deutschland 83 is not being streamed, but can be bought on a subscription. Deutschland 86 is supposed to available on Hulu. Deutschland 89 is supposed to be out in 2020.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5949 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
I think they thought of transplant of live tissue instead of replacement by artificial prosthetic then believed the doctor was lying when he tried to explain. It was a few years ago from a slightly crazed-looking fundamentalist that I first heard talk of the human microbiome. Basically as we've always known, we are hosts to all kinds of tiny kritters and there exists some kind of symbiotic relationships between us and them, but he was trying to extend that further. The simplest example is that microbes in our gut aid in our digestion, such that when we use antibiotics they also kill those beneficial microbes and our digestion and elimination gets messed up and doesn't get straightened out until our gut microbes can get reestablished. An example of this is the range of probiotic products for us to consume towards that end. Apparently, there have been some findings linking our biomes with our state of mind (eg, if my gut is out of whack, then of course I'm going to feel extra shitty, but it's supposed to be much more subtle and extensive than that). So this fundamentalist was espousing something like what makes us gay is our own biome. And our intimate interactions with others result in an infusion of biomes. So then if you take one up the tailpipe from a gay guy, you will be infused with a gay biome and that would cause you to become gay yourself. Of course, that begs the question that if you were not gay nor leaning gay to begin with, why would you have taken one up the tailpipe in the first place? So this fundamentalist's conclusion was that homosexuality is contagious. That intimate contact with a gay person could pass his biome on to you and turn you gay through your newly acquired gut feelings. Sorry, but I would still argue your engaging in intimate contact with a gay person would be an indication that you were already gay. Though this fundamentalist seemed to also think that even casual contact with (eg, shaking hands) or walking past a gay person could cause him to catch the gayness biome. I would suggest that this is just yet another case of something and misapplying it wildly. And, yes, both sides have been guilty of doing that. Edited by dwise1, : Penultimate paragraph about a questionable conclusion that gayness could be contagious Edited by dwise1, : Added reference to casual contact
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
No. It is all artificial. But metal and plastic are not of the same kind and could constitute sin when they rub themselves together like that.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5949 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
No. It is all artificial. But metal and plastic are not of the same kind and could constitute sin when they rub themselves together like that. OK, gotta bite now. Is mixing metal and plastic anything like mixing different fabrics into the same garment, which is trefe (ie, not kosher)? I forget what the Biblical penalty for mixing different fabrics together is (eg, polyester and cotton). Is that stoning to death? So then mixing metal and plastic?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
quote:-some priest From this most scholars conclude that the rubbing of metal with plastic is not allowed though some scholars argue that since the plastic kind did not exist at the time of this writing that rubbing metal and plastic together is not specifically prohibited. The other thing is that there is not any specified penalty for the violation of this prohibition within the passage which leads some scholars to contemplate whether some priest is ambivalent to these restrictions but would prefer they not be done. Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Is that a Pastafarian priest perchance?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
No. We're much more tolerant than that. It's probably from some off-the-wall made up cult from the deep dark recesses of a very disturbed mind.
Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1427 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
I may have to disabuse you of the idea that I have any sense at all, by pointing out that the donor's orientation concerns the possibility of getting HIV or AIDS in a blood transfusion. Since I assume they screen the blood for that (I hope) then orientation is meaningless. They do. They also screen for blood born diseases. For instance I can no longer give blood because my lymphoma could be transmitted to a recipient, and that is not something I would wish on anyone. I can give platelets, but I am low on those due to medications I am taking to keep the lymphoma in check.
... when the epidemic and its causes had become known the gay community got smart and gave up their promiscuous habits. It's also when gay marriage became a legal thing, and people in loving monogamous relationships aren't as promiscuous. Enjoyby our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
This was long before gay marriage. Gays were pairing up and living together like married partners long before legal marriage became an issue and there are many gays who think it's wrong to legally marry because they have the good sense to know it's for heterosexuals and makes no sense for gays.
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
Theodoric writes: Does anyone here think that Faith would not want to know if she was getting a "gay" transplant? It could get really complicated. Consider blood transfusions. She couldn't get a blood transfusion from a male, only females or LBGTQ males, but she'd have to make sure it wasn't from an LGBTQ male who identified as female but still preferred females. Also, an LGBTQ female who identified as male but still preferred males would be okay. See, it's complicated. Hospitals haven't caught up to these important issues yet. When I had surgery last year I wasn't asked any LGBTQ questions. Thank God just by sheer luck I got the right blood and my wife and I still have a healthy relationship, though it has been a little awkward adjusting to this sudden toe fetish I've developed. The hospital's attention was entirely absorbed by other less important things, like health related issues and making sure I was really who I said I was (this last seems to be a big one these days - I guess they have a lot of people trying to sneak in for free surgical procedures). --Percy
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Just have to point out that this is typical of liberal thought. I'd said nothing to suggest I'd have the problem imputed to me but nevertheless it is imputed to me. That is slander/libel is it not? This is in fact what has been done to Trump for three years now. He's done none of it but he's made guilty of it anyway.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1427 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
... there are many gays who think it's wrong to legally marry because they have the good sense to know it's for heterosexuals and makes no sense for gays. Can you provide a source for this? It makes as much sense as two people past child-bearing age getting married: love, security, health, etc. Enjoyby our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9146 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
So would you be ok with getting a blood transfusion or organ donation from a homosexual or a transsexual? We know you believe they have lees rights and are less than human.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Or men who've had a vasectomy.
Or women who've had a hysterectomy.For this generation of far-right nationalists, religion is not a question of ethical conduct; it is purely about identity and peoplehood. -- Jan-Werner Müller
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