All I care about is whether he can eventually justify his claim that he found three million noncitizen voters on the rolls.
Well, it's impressive that he managed to identify over 3 million illegal voters in less than two days. That's more than 17 per second. It would take me a lot longer than that to find out if someone's entitled to vote.
However, it would be nice if he supported his claim by, I dunno, giving out just one name of an illegal voter. Now admittedly one is not three million, but at least it would reassure us that the number he's found is in fact greater than zero.
Alternatively, you could just have blind faith in him and his absurd preposterous claims, I guess. Yeah, you'll probably do that.
He presents himself as a vote fraud investigator. I don't have any reason to doubt him until I have a reason to doubt him, and certainly nothing anybody at EvC has to say about him will suffice. Meanwhile we wait for verification.
The comparison between the Jews in Germany and the Muslim refugees here is disgusting.
It appears to be accurate. I'll note that you don't make a single substantive objection to the parallels I've drawn.
The stories about the Jews were all made up,
What stories about Jews do you refer to here as being made up?
the refugees are known to be members of a religious ideology that happens to like killing people who don't believe as they do
You don't need me to cast aspersion on you relative to Islamophobia. You somehow manage to cast aspersions on yourself.
As has been pointed out, we've been taking in refugees from Iraq and other countries where the predominate religion is Islam for decades. Where are the taken over hotels.
I guess nobody here keeps up with the "alternative" media.
I look at lots of sources on a regular basis. What I do not do is assume that any unsubstantiated stuff I see on the internet is correct. I understand my own biases, so when I hear stuff, I try to do some kind of vetting.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
All the antisemitic propaganda was made up. Islam, however, promotes slavery, subjugation to Islam and murder of "infidels," and that isn't made up. And it is dangerous to have ANY Muslims in the country for that reason, even the apparently peaceable ones and the ones who interpret Islam in a more peaceful way, because there is always the possibility that any believer in Islam can be radicalized under the right circumstances. And no I'm not proposing deporting legitimate citizens. They're here and we have to hope they'll stay peacful. But Islam is an evil ideology. And although the term "Islamophobe" is just nasty propaganda to discredit people you disagree with, I'll cop to it because it is an evil barbarian murderous ideology that wants to rule the world and it would be irrational to the point of in-sanity not to fear it. It's that irrationality and innsanity that is destroying Europe as we speak.
Why when I mention what MIGHT happen in the future under current Leftist trends do you all so inanely point out that it hasn't happened YET as if that's relevant? These things are happening in Europe where they are laboring under political correctness to a far greater extreme than we are YET -- it's only going to get worse unless God has mercy on them, give it a decade or so before even you may have to admit the reality of the problem. Trump's presidency may help push back the tide here if one of your guys doesn't manage to assassinate him before he can.
Why when I mention what MIGHT happen in the future under current Leftist trends do you all so inanely point out that it hasn't happened YET as if that's relevant?
Is this really a question you need to ask?
Your statements about what leftist might do are your worthless speculations based on your wingnut frame of mind. If you cannot ground your fears in reality other than the xenophobic voices in your head, then your own comments are irrelevant. Just noise.
No commentary necessary for this:
..it is dangerous to have ANY Muslims in the country for that reason, even the apparently peaceable ones and the ones who interpret Islam in a more peaceful way
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
So stew in your self-delusion along with all the other deniers of reality. Fortunately there are still some sane people left in the world, who are smart enough to stay away from a place like EvC.
Fortunately there are still some sane people left in the world, who are smart enough to stay away from a place like EvC.
Are you drawing a contrast with the sanity and/or intelligence of folks who hate these forums but cannot stay away?
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
What stories about Jews do you refer to here as being made up?
I think Faith was trying to say that pre-WWII German authorities concocted stories of Jews working against the best interests of the state, in the end falsely holding Jews responsible for a host of German ills. She was contrasting it to our current situation where we can trust that everything Trump and the alt-media say about immigrants and Muslims is true, and thank God we have Faith's assurances that there's no racism or bias involved in scapegoating entire classes or races of people.
More seriously, your endorsement of vetting is the right encouragement, but for too many people the attraction of what they already believe is too powerful for any evidence.
I studIed the history and cultural expressions of Islam long ago, before 9/11 even. I have all the evidence needed to know that Islam is an evil ideology though many of its members live without that knowledge until something makes them aware of it, which can radicalize them.
And I'll say it again even to the deaf and blind delusional evc-ers that I am NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE, NOT ABOUT RACES -- I'm talking about IDEOLOGIES. There are evil ideologies in the world that are designed to destroy human beings and nations and rule the world. People are their victims. But since they are also their carriers you can't just pretend there is no threat from people who are in thrall to them.
NOW I HOPE I CAN GET OUT OF THIS INCUBATOR OF LIES.
You do keep making the claim that Islam is an evil ideology yet you never present any evidence to support that assertion.
Is there some reason (like the fact that no evidence for 3 million illegal voters is ever presented?) that you do not present evidence but only assertions?
even the apparently peaceable ones and the ones who interpret Islam in a more peaceful way, because there is always the possibility that any believer in Islam can be radicalized under the right circumstances.
Deceptive propaganda.
But Islam is an evil ideology.
Lies.
And although the term "Islamophobe" is just nasty propaganda
Lies.
I'll cop to it
Welcome to the 21st Century version of anti-semitism Faith.
it is an evil barbarian murderous ideology that wants to rule the world
Lies
Why when I mention what MIGHT happen in the future under current Leftist trends do you all so inanely point out that it hasn't happened YET as if that's relevant?
Lazy speculation intent on spreading fear.
These things are happening in Europe where they are laboring under political correctness to a far greater extreme than we are
I've been there, I woke up there this morning, in fact. You can't lie to me as easily as you were lied to.
give it a decade or so before even you may have to admit the reality of the problem
The problem is already well defined and understood. You just believe a different solution is better. Better that thousands of Muslims die than dozens of Europeans, right?
Trump's presidency may help push back the tide here if one of your guys doesn't manage to assassinate him before he can.
Don't forget mad women in boxes:
quote: The great majority of a nation is so feminine in its character and outlook that its thought and conduct are ruled by sentiment rather than by sober reasoning. This sentiment, however, is not complex, but simple and consistent. It is not highly differentiated, but has only the negative and positive notions of love and hatred, right and wrong, truth and falsehood.
quote:We were also those who for the first time made major efforts to explain to the people a danger that had crept up on us, and which millions of people did not recognize, even though it threatened to ruin us all: the danger of the Muslims
quote:The Republican worldview has in recent years opened the eyes of the greater part of our people to this problem. The American people has recognized that the Muslims have crept in like a parasite not only into our people, but into all the peoples of the earth, and that it is attempting to corrupt the original cultures of the peoples in order to destroy them, and thereby rule over them.
quote:Despite the fact that they feel so secure, at least for the moment, the Muslims are thinking hard about why the awakened peoples of America are defending themselves against them. Nothing reveals his uncertainty about the path their laws dictate to world domination than what we often read in the works of Muslim authors
It is in part this uncertainty that drives the Muslims to pursue their goal of world domination more quickly and more consistently. Even John Adams wrote: The Muslim will not spare us. We can be sure that this is more true today than ever before.
quote:We Republicans believe Trump when he says that at the end of the battle, unleashed on us as his strongest adversary by the Islamic world parasite, Islam in America will be eradicated. Until this cleansing occurs, we must always remember that Islam is our absolute enemy who will shrink at nothing. Muslims know but a single goal: our complete destruction.
quote:The so-called educated classes mocked and scorned the Republican Party as it began its struggle, particularly when Donald Trump repeatedly said that Islam was problematic. They rejected Trump's statement that all of decent humanity suffers today under Islam. At best, they laughed about such fanatics. Of course, one had often had bitter experiences with the practices of individual Muslims, but people did not realize that Islam concealed itself as a brotherhood. Their own sentiments prevented them from drawing the logical conclusion. They did not want to recognize the true nature of this so-called brotherhood.
quote:The great mass of Muslims, however, was incapable of overcoming their appearances. That became clear to each American who wanted to see as he observed Muslims after 2001 from a politically trained viewpoint. In comparison with us, what a difference in conduct and behavior. A Christian who must spend a long time in poverty even under the most primitive of conditions, will behave as a Christian. They will maintain dignity and personal appearance. In particular, they will not lose their sense of the necessity of spiritual cleanliness.
It is exactly the opposite with Muslims. As long as they, with the help of lies, are striving for full equality with the host people, attempting to deceive them about their drive for absolute rule, the Muslim exerts himself to the fullest to resist his own drives, in order that he may behave as expected. But at the very moment that these pressures, for whatever reason, disappear, he sinks back into the filth, even if he has seemed to be a cultivated Muslim for decades.
In a way we cannot understand, he stops taking care of his soul and conscience. After perhaps only a few days, and certainly after a few weeks, he reveals once more the original appearance of Islam: the violence and cruelness. It had only been a facade. Even over decades, he had been unable to change his real nature, nor had he wanted to. Never has a Muslim, if he was honest, had any real interest in learning from his host people. After all, he was firmly convinced that he would one day be lord of his host people, and that he could then impose his law on them, also in the physical realm.
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