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Author Topic:   Why God and the bible are actually more likely
sdachristian
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01-19-2007 5:13 PM


Look at this. The bible, which was written by multiple individuals, over a period of 3 different continents, in different times and places, most of the authors never having met, was written(this is of course the OT) three hundred years before Jesus was born. there are over three hundred prophecies in the OT about Jesus and his life and what he would do. They all, every one of them came true. They were all done by the man we all like to call Jesus Christ. Let's look at the probability test of this. The probability of one man doing 8/300 of these prophecies is a 1/100,000,000,000,000,000. In words that is one in a one hundred quadrillianth chance that it could happen. That is the equilivant of taking silver dollars and filling the state of Texas two feet deep with silver dollars and taking one of those out, marking it, throwing it back in, mixing them up and taking a blindfolded individual and having them pick it out in the first try. Let me put this even more into perspective for you. Take a jar of thirty silver dollars, mark one and randomly pull one out. You will almost never get it on the first try, think about walking around the entire state of Texas two feet deep with them and grabbing the right one. There is almost no chance. Then look at the other side of the argument. Evolution. Plants and Humans need eachother, its a fact. They produce oxygen into C2O and they produce C20 into oxygen. We need eachother to survive. The chances of these two completely different organisms being created and being able to help eachother are astronomical. It's not gonna happen. Mousetrap theory. Everything on a mousetrap needs to work or the mousetrap won't, its the same with your eye. Why can't we recreate an eye if nature randomly can create it easily. It shouldn't even be hard. Then look at what the bible has done. For 2000 years it has stayed around, while other theory's have gone against it, these theory's have passed away, yet the bible is still here and not disproven. There is endless reasons the bible is more likely and this is just some of them. Also, have an open mind here, if we are debating and neither of us will change our minds, what's the point. I am willing to listen to all and see if what you believe is more correct than what i do.

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01-19-2007 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by sdachristian
01-19-2007 5:13 PM


Focus Please
Welcome to EvC, sda! Thanks for joining us.
We try to keep threads reasonably well focussed as to topic so they don't wander all over the map. This allows individuals who are only interested in specific topics to follow those threads they are interested in.
It also allows members to come in late and learn stuff about specific topics.
One way to focus a thread is to get a good OP (opening post). Your OP has waaaay too many different issues in it to promote it for dicussion.
For example:
1. a discussion of the nature of the Bible applying probabity calculations to it. This could to in one of the non-science bible theads or "The Bible accuracy ..." thead if the focus was on your calculations (which by the way someone will ask you to show the details of).
2.Plants and Humans co-evolution. Would belong in Biological evolution. Again you will have to show your calculations.
3. The evolution of the Eye. I suggest that you search EvC for existing discussion of this. Or google the web for it. Your understanding of evolution is approximately zero so you will find discussions here will quickly overwhelm you. You might want to go a bit slower.
4. Back to the Bible in a general sort of way.
Which discussion do you want to have? What forum do you think it should be in?
You can edit your opening post to fix it up if you want it promoted. While you are at it please use double 'enters' to leave spaces between paragraphs. Paragraphs are a new hi-tech invention to increase the readabiility of prose.
(Your other proposed topic is purely religious in nature so I will leave it for someone else to look at).

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