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Author | Topic: Should countries outlaw the hijab, niqab and burka? | |||||||||||||||||||
ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Greatest I am writes:
if they are, they shouldn't be.
But why do you think that governments are forbidding smoking even where the smoke would not offend or reach people? Greatest I am writes:
Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes.... The answer doesn't change just because you repeat the question. Do you still think that the law should ignore the 75% just to appease the 25% whose indoctrination tells them that their invisible and absentee God wants them to cover their heads and faces? The majority does not have a right to oppress the minority, period.
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Tangle writes:
I mention the hijab and you respond to the burqa. That's dishonest. We've done this, we're not only discussing the hijab. There is a fundamental difference between the hijab and the niqab/burqa. The niqab/burqa present problems of identification, the hijab does not. So let's decide whether or not it's acceptable to ban the hijab and then we can move on.
Tangle writes:
It's thoroughly relevant. Identification issues are separate from forced assimilation issues. The burqa represents both, the hijab only one. So let's deal with the forced assimilation issue first and then we can move on.
ringo writes:
That is, of course, totally irrelevant. I've never seen a burqa in my life Tangle writes:
How do you propose to enforce the prohibition from wearing them in public without some form of sanction?
No one is going to be prosecuted for ownership or dealing in burkas no matter how many they have. You get the difference?
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
ringo writes: I mention the hijab and you respond to the burqa. That's dishonest.There is a fundamental difference between the hijab and the niqab/burqa. The niqab/burqa present problems of identification No shit?
So let's decide whether or not it's acceptable to ban the hijab and then we can move on. No let's not. Instead why don't you reread this this thread and count the number of times that I've told you that there is no fucking problem with the hijab - as far as bans are concerned. And while your there, perhaps you can also get a grip of when I say burka/burqa or full-face covering or head to foot bag with an eye slit, I'm not referring to a hijab. Ffs.
How do you propose to enforce the prohibition from wearing them in public without some form of sanction? This is becoming idiotic. As ever, you deliberately misinterpret, dodge and otherwise behave disingenuously when you find yourself in trouble. I'll leave you to it for a while.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Tangle writes:
You could take your own advice and count how many times I've mentioned the niqab/burqa as opposed to the hijab. I say hijab and you respond to niqab/burqa. If you don't disagree with what I'm saying about the hijab, you can stop arguing with what I'm saying about the hijab.
Instead why don't you reread this this thread and count the number of times that I've told you that there is no fucking problem with the hijab - as far as bans are concerned. Tangle writes:
So you have no answer.
ringo writes:
This is becoming idiotic. How do you propose to enforce the prohibition from wearing them in public without some form of sanction?
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Bliyaal Member (Idle past 2389 days) Posts: 171 From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada Joined: |
Why don't you answer the argument instead?
Let me do that again just for you : Indeed! It's well known that the the hijab, niqab and burka are damaging to your health and to the health of those around you.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Bliyaal writes: Why don't you answer the argument instead? Because it's already been answered and I have a low tolerance of repetition and the deliberate distortion of arguments for argument sake alone. If you genuinely want to understand the reasons why the burqa and niqab (but not the bloody hijab - got it yet?) have been banned I suggest you read the thread. If you want to twist analogies and create false positions, I'm not interested.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Bliyaal Member (Idle past 2389 days) Posts: 171 From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada Joined: |
Because it's already been answered and I have a low tolerance of repetition and the deliberate distortion of arguments for argument sake alone. If you genuinely want to understand the reasons why the burqa and niqab (but not the bloody hijab - got it yet?) have been banned I suggest you read the thread. If you want to twist analogies and create false positions, I'm not interested. You're the one insisting that the thread is about burqa, niqab and, yes, hijab. You're also the one trying to make a link between smoking and wearing a hijab/niqab/burqa while calling others on supposed bad analogies. Maybe you could explain why it's relevant. Edited by Bliyaal, : No reason given.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 295 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
ringo
Seems you are wrong as it happens in many countries now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5mixM0gChI RegardsDL
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Greatest I am writes:
Stop trying to argue by bare links. If you have a point, make it.
Seems you are wrong as it happens in many countries now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5mixM0gChI
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 295 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
I just did.
RegardsD
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Greatest I am writes:
What was it?
ringo writes:
I just did. Stop trying to argue by bare links. If you have a point, make it.
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AdminPhat Inactive Member |
Closing this one down for now.... the attacks are becoming too personal.
Argue the position, not the person. Edited by AdminPhat, : No reason given.
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