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Author Topic:   The Totalitarian Leftist Tactics against the Right
Faith 
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Message 796 of 960 (812845)
06-20-2017 2:21 PM
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06-20-2017 2:05 PM


Re: Calls to assassinate Trump
I guess you just can't see how mentally challenged your thinking is. Leftists seem to have difficulty making logical distinctions and reading in context. Very strange really.

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Faith 
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Message 797 of 960 (812846)
06-20-2017 2:22 PM
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06-20-2017 2:05 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
Well at least you see some problem, but you are missing the subtleties and yes they are there in that headline as I said.

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Message 798 of 960 (812848)
06-20-2017 2:24 PM
Reply to: Message 793 by Faith
06-20-2017 1:54 PM


Re: Calls to assassinate Trump
Do you insist that a written report is evidence for the truth of its contents?
You don't want to open that can of worms.

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Faith 
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Message 799 of 960 (812849)
06-20-2017 2:25 PM
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06-20-2017 2:24 PM


Re: Calls to assassinate Trump
You really can't think, how sad.

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Message 800 of 960 (812850)
06-20-2017 2:28 PM
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06-20-2017 2:22 PM


Re: Nugent tells it like it is
But the headline is not a lie.. Nor is it insulting. It's a simple statement of objective fact.
But acknowledging that not all headlines about Trump are lies would be acknowledging your exceptionally silly error, and you just cannot do that.

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JonF
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Message 801 of 960 (812851)
06-20-2017 2:30 PM
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06-20-2017 2:25 PM


Re: Calls to assassinate Trump
Is a written report evidence for the truth of its contents? Pick one:
Yes
No
Oh crap, I've shot my foot while it was in my mouth. Again.

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Message 802 of 960 (813066)
06-22-2017 1:19 PM


Hannity sums it all up to perfection

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JonF
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Message 803 of 960 (813073)
06-22-2017 4:24 PM
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06-22-2017 1:19 PM


Re: Hannity sums it all up to perfection
Nobody's going to watch 53 minutes of a self-confessed non-newsman. Got anything to say? Say it.
Hey, got any names of people who've called for Trump's assassination?
Didn't think so.

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JonF
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Message 804 of 960 (813075)
06-22-2017 5:30 PM


Ah, must be this. Nothing the ultra-right loves more than violence.
Hannity Unhinged: Dog Whistle To Violence Edition
quote:
Sean Hannity sank deeper into his pit of unhinged hate mongering this Tuesday night as he repeatedly suggested that Donald Trump opponents are dangerous enemies of the country. Every American should find it alarming.
During a monologue that lasted more than 11 minutes, Hannity repeatedly suggested that opponents of Trump are a threat that needs to be dealt with (transcript via FoxNews.com):
Hannity:
quote:
Tonight, a soft coup is under way right here in the United States of America in an attempt to overturn November’s election results and forcibly remove a duly elected president from office, sinister forces quickly aligning in what is becoming now, in my mind, a clear and present danger.
In concert with his message, a large graphic blared at times, "CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER."
Hannity went on to rail against the Destroy Trump Media and the other usual foes. If you’re a regular Hannity watcher, you’ve heard those bits before. Many, many times:
But while it's tempting to laugh at Hannity as a broken record, there is nothing comical about how he reiterated his clear and present danger rhetoric:
HANNITY:
quote:
And you, the American people, you’re the ones suffering because these forces are slowing down what you voted for. A president enacting the agenda he promised, means fewer jobs, less economic growth, no border wall, no tax reform, no repealing, replacing ObamaCare, no getting people out of poverty, off of food stamps, back in the labor force, buying homes at a 51-year low*.
The longer these attacks continue, the longer it will take for you, the American people, to benefit from what from what you voted for, the president’s policies and agenda. And all of this is now creating a very clear, present danger to the country. The left is suffering well beyond Trump derangement syndrome. It’s completely unhinged.
Look at how vile some of their rhetoric has been.
Of course, Hannity didn’t play his former colleague Andrea Tantaros urging her radio listeners to do me a favor and punch an Obama supporter in the face. Which did not get her fired from Fox News.
Apparently, Donald Trump fostering actual violence doesn't count, either.
Nor the explicit approval of violence, spoken on Fox News and Fox Business, against anti-Trump protesters by Fox fave Sheriff David Clarke.
Hannity also conveniently forgot all the times, with similarly couched language, he suggested Cliven Bundy and supporters should become violent toward federal law enforcers.
And if anyone would know about efforts to take down a president, it would be Hannity. He enthusiastically promoted Donald Trump's bogus birther attacks on President Barack Obama (and claimed otherwise).
But really, this goes beyond hypocrisy. Hannity is deliberately fomenting hostility and he’s using inflammatory language to do so.
Hannity pretended he was merely urging viewers to become civically engaged:
HANNITY:
quote:
If you’re sick and tired of it, I think you should let your congressmen and women know. I think you should look at the media tonight and ask, Are they telling you the truth anymore?
But his very next comments all but declared that viewers have no choice but to take the law into their own hands:
HANNITY:
quote:
We’re at a turning point. You, the American people, have a profound choice to make here. You can let this continue to happen, watch the country descend into chaos, you can sit back, or you can stand up and fight for what you voted for back in November and the agenda that you want implemented in this country.
Shame on Fox News for tolerating it.
Watch this Hannity go right up to the edge of calling for violence above, from the June 20, 2017 Hannity:
*Lie, of course. Home ownership is recovering from a 51-year low: There's a simple reason the percentage of people owning a home is at a historic low. And the other benefits he claims are unlikely to happen of just not going to happen: Kansas' tax cuts are a spectacular failure. Meanwhile, in California ..., GOP Tax Plans Would Emulate Failed Kansas Experiment. Trickle-down economics failed for Reagan, failed for W, failed for Walker in Wisconsin, failed for Jindal in Louisiana, and really really failed for Brownback in Kansas. But this time for sure, amirite?

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Faith 
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Message 805 of 960 (813092)
06-23-2017 6:32 AM
Reply to: Message 804 by JonF
06-22-2017 5:30 PM


Haven't Seen a Fair Leftist Assessment of Anything in Years
The underhandedness of the Left is just amazing.
Hannity is identifying the subterfuges of the Left in his talk, showing how there is a "soft coup" underway as the attacks on Trump are truly unprecedented, being not merely criticism but the actual attempt to destroy his Presidency by lies. He shows Democrats recognizing that there was no collusion between Trump and Russia; Dianne Weinstein said so too but she isn't mentioned. Nevertheless Mueller's investigation is proceeding as if that hadn't been recognized because apparently they figure people will believe the lie if it's repeated enough.
The critic even uses Hannity's word "unhinged" for the Left against him, so childish and uncivilized they are.
He also shows Madonna saying she fantasizes about blowing up the White House. He could have shown something like 12000 recent tweets calling for Trump's assassination. The point is the violence is on the Left, just about all of it, yet this excuse for a commentator on Hannity's show claims Hannity is calling for violence rather than for more involvement of proTrumpers. We have the violence of the BLM, we have the violence of Antifa, and this has actually been defended at EvC. We have video of blacks dragging a white man out of his car and beating him up, thinking he was a pro Trumper, though he wasn't; no matter he's white, we're now in the era of anti-white racism and it's bloody. Also the video of four blacks torturing a handicapped white guy, quite literally for being white although he was also accused of being for Trump; and an idiot black woman mocking the idea that whites are now targets. The violence is on the Left and Hannity said nothing to encourage violence on the Right, just that we need to get more involved if the Left isn't going to succeed at its evil plots.
So, of course no comment on what Hannity was actually showing, just slimy insinuations about calling for violence. "A Clear and Present Danger" was on the screen at the appropriate times but the writer likes the idea of pretending it's a call to violence so exaggerates its presence.
The tactics of the Left are uncivilized to put it mildly, and taking us down the road to total economic and cultural destruction if people don't wake up.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 806 of 960 (813108)
06-23-2017 8:50 AM
Reply to: Message 805 by Faith
06-23-2017 6:32 AM


Re: Haven't Seen a Fair Leftist Assessment of Anything in Years
I didn't watch the video. Do you or he have any objective facts to discuss?
(ABE} Links to the claims about beating people up, please.
There are a few leftist nutjobs and there has been some leftist violence. Such violence is wrong no matter who commits it, and I condemn it. But it's a huge leap from a few incidents to a nationwide conspiracy.
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Faith 
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Message 807 of 960 (813109)
06-23-2017 8:53 AM
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06-23-2017 8:50 AM


Re: Haven't Seen a Fair Leftist Assessment of Anything in Years
As I said, he showed a couple of Democrats being interviewed on TV news, saying there is no evidence of Trump colluding with Russia.

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Faith 
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Message 808 of 960 (813110)
06-23-2017 8:56 AM
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06-23-2017 8:50 AM


Re: Haven't Seen a Fair Leftist Assessment of Anything in Years
I guess you didn't notice Genomicus' saying how "we" need the violence of Antifa because conservatives are so evil, or her defense of BLM as not violent some time ago? I can find the videos of the blacks beating up the white man and the handicapped white man but I'm surprised you never saw them.

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JonF
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Message 809 of 960 (813111)
06-23-2017 9:13 AM
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06-23-2017 8:53 AM


Re: Haven't Seen a Fair Leftist Assessment of Anything in Years
As I said, he showed a couple of Democrats being interviewed on TV news, saying there is no evidence of Trump colluding with Russia.
OK, what Democrats and what exactly did they say? All the claims of "no evidence of collusion with Russia" I've seen have been obvious misinterpretations of carefully crafted statements that say no such thing. I posted information on that a few days ago.
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JonF
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Message 810 of 960 (813114)
06-23-2017 9:17 AM
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06-23-2017 8:56 AM


Re: Haven't Seen a Fair Leftist Assessment of Anything in Years
Assuming that's true, it's still a far cry from a nationwide conspiracy.
I certainly don't think all conservatives are evil. Some are. Alas, the evil ones are in charge.
BLM is not violent. Some members of BLM are. The vast majority aren't.
As to the videos, I'd rather see your evidence of the beater's intent and a discussion of why you generalize such incidents to nationwide conspiracy.

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