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purpledawn
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Message 391 of 392 (572505)
08-06-2010 8:28 AM
Reply to: Message 390 by Peg
08-05-2010 6:08 PM


Re: No Christian Laws
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ok purpledawn, you can believe whatever you like about what you consider to be law or not
Its easy to do when you ignore the fact that Jesus quoted from the mosaic laws when teaching the people about those laws and how they 'should' be applied.
It isn't about belief. It's about understanding what is said.
There is a difference between laws of a legal system, like the Mosaic Laws and Jewish Laws and rules of procedure which is really where your "law of Christ" fall. There is no Christian legal system.
God supposedly gave the Mosaic laws to the nation of Israel for the legal system. Those were God's laws for Israel. A working legal system.
That why when you make statements like this:
Peg writes:
Anyone who wants to benefit from that salvation MUST put their faith in Jesus Christ and must follow him. This goes for Gentiles too...they must submit to Christian law and the teaching of Christs Apostles. Gods laws and mans are quite different and just because a gentile follows the laws of their land does not mean that they have a righteous standing with God. They must follow Gods laws in order to obtain that. Remember that it is 'Faith' in God that counts a person as righteous, not works of any law.
To show faith in God, one must adopt HIS laws....or better put, live as he directs.
It shows you rely on doctrine more than what is actually written.
If God's laws are not the Mosaic law, what are God's laws and where are they written. If you say it is written on our hearts, then God's laws are the same as mankind's.
Righteous simply means one isn't breaking the rules of their legal system. Like Noah.
Righteousness conveys the idea of conformity to an ethical or moral standard.
So as Christians we are bound by our current legal system. We are not to break those laws. Jesus taught that we should live by a higher moral or ethical standard. Just because something is legal, doesn't mean we should do it. Just because we can doesn't mean we should.
Just like marriage and divorce. Choose a mate wisely and strive to keep the relationship healthy so divorce isn't necessary. Today we know that divorce can adversely impact the children and the spouse depending on what caused the split. The impact on women and children was different thousands of years ago than it is today, but consequences were there. So while divorce is legal and is there if all else fails, it shouldn't be used indiscriminately.
Just as laws change, ethical and moral standards also change over time.
When you say: Remember that it is 'Faith' in God that counts a person as righteous, not works of any law.
To show faith in God, one must adopt HIS laws....or better put, live as he directs.
; you're contradicting yourself because you don't make it clear what is meant by law. Also remember that Paul is the one who speaks of works of the law. I don't feel he was talking about the legal system. I feel Paul was talking more about religious procedures.
Kinda like what I've said before about Christians doing all the right things in Church, but not necessarily in their lives. Going to church every Sunday doesn't make one right before God. Singing in the choir doesn't make one right before God. Wearing a dress instead of jeans doesn't make a woman right before God. Being an Elder in the church doesn't make one right before God. You get my drift.
If one does all those things, but won't give a man gas for his car when needed; then they didn't learn the lesson.
Your statement doesn't make that distinction clear. Catch phrases tend to lose meaning over time. Always good to take a close look at what is really being said and whether the speaker knows what they are actually saying. Given your responses, I don't feel that you do understand what you're actually presenting.

Scripture is like Newton’s third law of motionfor every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
In other words, for every biblical directive that exists, there is another scriptural mandate challenging it.
-- Carlene Cross in The Bible and Newton’s Third Law of Motion

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Message 392 of 392 (582989)
09-24-2010 5:19 AM


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