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xongsmith
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Message 1157 of 1184 (909379)
04-01-2023 10:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1156 by marc9000
04-01-2023 10:30 PM


Re: What Damage an AR-15 Can Do
m9k writes:
A concealed handgun could have proven useful.
Assuming it doesn't hit a window or another innocent passenger, maybe also raising a gun.
Face it, Marc - the average plane passenger is not likely to be trained enough and skilled enough and smart enough to even carry a gun anywhere.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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marc9000
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Message 1158 of 1184 (909380)
04-01-2023 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1155 by xongsmith
04-01-2023 10:22 PM


Re: What Damage an AR-15 Can Do
...so the actual people who LIVE THERE and are interviewed AT THE BORDER are all lying when they say nothing is happening..
Link me to some of those interviews, and I'll link you to people who live at the border whose property is overrun and vandalized by illegals, and we'll compare.
Texas Rancher Says Illegal Immigrants Repeatedly Damage His Property
Farmers, ranchers impacted by border crisis share stories online - Texas Farm Bureau
quote:
Fences are sometimes cut as illegal immigrants move across farms and ranches. Others are destroyed in bail-outs during high speed chases.
Homes and barns are vandalized. Equipment and vehicles are stolen. Clothes, backpacks, other items and trash are left behind in the “camps” as illegal immigrants move through their property, leaving farmers and ranchers left to clean up the mess. And fear and anxiety are high for families concerned about their safety.
And I'll bet you're just as skilled as Theodoric at conceding points.
what a sack of shit for you to say. you should find another group to disgorge your rectal vomits into instead of here, in Percy's fine group. If you want to smear shit on the walls, maybe you should storm the Capital instead.
Should Percy censor me, or just flag me?
marc9000 writes:
Preventing them yes, dealing with them after they're underway, not so much.

You must mean like the Clinton administration did, warning Dubbya about Osama and 9/11.
No, more like the Clinton administration's FAILURE to kill Bin Laden in 1998.
A day before Sept. 11, 2001, former President Bill Clinton told an audience that he could have had Osama bin Laden killed, but chose not to, because an attack could have endangered innocent women and children in Afghanistan.
Loolz!!
Thank you for helping the others out, I'm sure they appreciate it.

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marc9000
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Message 1159 of 1184 (909381)
04-01-2023 10:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1157 by xongsmith
04-01-2023 10:44 PM


Re: What Damage an AR-15 Can Do
Face it, Marc - the average plane passenger is not likely to be trained enough and skilled enough and smart enough to even carry a gun anywhere.
Probably not. Maybe that should change.

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Message 1160 of 1184 (909387)
04-02-2023 4:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1158 by marc9000
04-01-2023 10:53 PM


Re: What Damage an AR-15 Can Do
m9k replies:
Link me to some of those interviews, and I'll link you to people who live at the border whose property is overrun and vandalized by illegals, and we'll compare.
ah, there was a video, but I can't find it again. i'll concede that and also concede that an anecdotal video is no evidence.
but this graph is not anecdotal:
No webpage found at provided URL: https://borderoversight.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/wola_migration_charts.043.jpeg

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Percy
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Message 1161 of 1184 (909390)
04-02-2023 8:18 AM
Reply to: Message 1151 by marc9000
04-01-2023 9:27 PM


Re: What Damage an AR-15 Can Do
marc9000 writes:
I'm not imagining a better armed citizenry. I'm imagining a much worse armed citizenry, one that would have made 9/11 worse, and made planning for it much easier for the terrorists. They had to get in the country and on those planes without knowing who could be armed. They planned it well, an armed citizenry can't prevent all terrorism obviously. But it can be a deterrent in some cases.
I'm still having trouble seeing any sense in this. The terrorists were in the country legally, some of them for quite a while. Those who flew the planes learned how by attending American flight schools. Guns aren't allowed on planes, so they carried box cutters. How did an armed citizenry make 911 better than it could have been?
How are you defining "wide open southern border"?
More illegal immigration, more illegal drugs crossing it than ever before in U.S. history.
I'm still not following your terminology. If "wide open southern border" describes the current situation at the southern border, what words would describe if all security were eliminated?
What are you imagining that a well armed citizenry could do about chemical and biological weapons?
For any ground invaders of the U.S., for introduction of any kind of attack or terrorism, being more unsure about just who is armed is going to be a deterrent for many things they would need to do. LIke move around within U.S. borders, eat, sleep, etc.
You said an armed citizenry would act as a deterrent to chemical and biological weapons, and I asked how. This isn't an answer.
Fighting these kinds of surreptitious attacks is more the realm of the CIA and other national security organizations than the military.
Preventing them yes, dealing with them after they're underway, not so much.
We're still talking about chemical and biological weapons. After the terrorists have released them into the air or water supply, what exactly do you imagine an armed citizenry doing?
You still seem way out there, Marc. Reality wants you back.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 1162 of 1184 (909393)
04-02-2023 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 1153 by marc9000
04-01-2023 10:14 PM


Re: What Damage an AR-15 Can Do
marc9000 writes:
There is an uneven balance between those on the political left versus those on the right, concerning censorship. The left showed clear approval of Trump being banned from Twitter, other conservatives banned from Twitter. Conservatives banned from speaking at college campuses, etc. We never hear much about conservatives attempting to censor liberals. And some of them say really dangerous, stupid things sometimes. Conservatives tend to trust public judgement of what they're hearing better than liberals do.
I'm against efforts by either side to demonize the other. I'm also against censorship from any source, for instance removing Toni Morrison's Beloved from high school libraries, or attempts to influence AP courses to conform to a sanitized view of slavery, or letting anyone influence actions based on claims of finding something offensive, and so forth.
That's exactly what the mainstream media did when they reported that a policeman was beaten to death by a fire extinguisher by Trump supporters.
If the mainstream media knew it was a lie that a policeman was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher then of course that was wrong, but why would they report a lie as being true since obviously if they know it's a lie then others know it's a lie and it will eventually be revealed that they lied? Doesn't make sense. And mainstream media accuracy has a much better record of adherence to truth and accuracy than you do.
A multi-million dollar investigation showed the mainstream media's lie was reported as fact, month after month before, that there was Trump-Russian collusion during the 2016 election.
I am of course against any media, mainstream or otherwise, reporting lies, but these news reports of which you speak are all in the recent past and we probably all still recall them. I know I do, and I do not remember the mainstream media reporting possible Russian/Trump campaign collusion as a fact. They did report a lot of facts, like the Trump Tower meeting with Russians and the many communications between former Russian intelligence officer Konstantin Kilimnik and Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort. But I don't recall them reporting as fact Trump/Russian collusion.
Much more evidence that was a lie, than conservative opinion that the 2020 election was stolen.
The Mueller report said that the strong appearance of collusion was because the goals of the Russians and the Trump campaign were in alignment but that they were only fellow travelers rather than colluders. It also reported likely obstruction of justice offenses by Trump and his campaign that were they pursued would result in additional information coming to light that could impact the conclusions about collusion.
AGREED!! And a resistance could be very important, and save a lot of lives, and possibly save the nation. Much more important than an emotional "do something, anything" to step-by-step weaken the second amendment because of the actions of a tiny percentage of mentally ill people. I'm not the only one who believes news media sensationalism encourages mass shootings much more than the 250 year long availability of guns in the U.S.
The founders would be horrified at the carnage caused by easily available weaponry and immediately seek to amend the second amendment. The very real carnage we're experiencing can not be justified by militia member wet dreams of saving the country from a fantasy foreign invasion.
I don't know, but they have much more U.S. military equipment now than they had when Bin-Laden planned 9/11 from that country. And since Bin-Laden became fish food, it's reasonable to surmise that they probably have more hate for the U.S. now than they did in 2001.
I think terrorism originating from places like Afghanistan, Iran, Syria and so forth, is a very real threat, but not invasion. None of them have significant navies, Afghanistan's possibly being non-existent.
Conspiracy theories go both ways of course. (Trump-Russian collusion?)
Possible Trump campaign collusion with Russia was not a conspiracy theory. It was investigated by Robert Mueller who wrote in The Mueller Report, Volume 1 that there was obstruction of justice that interfered with the investigation's ability to uncover evidence of collusion:
The Mueller Report, Volume 1:
Third, the investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the investigation of Russian election interference. The Office charged some of those lies as violations of the federal false statements statute. Former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying...etc...
Seems like if a conservative calls attention to something, it's a conspiracy theory, and when a liberal does, he's a "whistleblower".
Conspiratorial thinking does seem to dominate conservative thought. The 2020 election was stolen, Sandy Hook was faked, the Democrats are running a Satanic pedophile ring out of a pizza parlor basement, Nancy Pelosi's husband attacker was actually his gay lover, and so on.
The reasonable approach is to reject conspiratorial thinking no matter its source. Seek out facts and see if they can be fit into a framework of understanding.
--Percy

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marc9000
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Message 1163 of 1184 (909402)
04-02-2023 6:05 PM


First 5 minutes - sometimes the clowns, in between joking, can speak some very plain truths.

  
marc9000
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Message 1164 of 1184 (909439)
04-03-2023 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 1162 by Percy
04-02-2023 9:40 AM


Re: What Damage an AR-15 Can Do
If the mainstream media knew it was a lie that a policeman was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher then of course that was wrong, but why would they report a lie as being true since obviously if they know it's a lie then others know it's a lie and it will eventually be revealed that they lied? Doesn't make sense.
Others seldom know it's a lie. ABC World News Tonight doesn't retract anything. A lot of their base still believe that policeman was beaten to death by Trump supporters. If they ever do correct themselves. it takes 10 or 15 seconds in one newscast and it's done, then back to their regular "reporting". Many people still believe there is sufficient evidence that Trump colluded with Russia in 2016.
...and I do not remember the mainstream media reporting possible Russian/Trump campaign collusion as a fact. They did report a lot of facts, like the Trump Tower meeting with Russians and the many communications between former Russian intelligence officer Konstantin Kilimnik and Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort. But I don't recall them reporting as fact Trump/Russian collusion.
I've never noticed them using the term "fact". They reported Trump/Russian collusion with the same sensationalism as they did with Trump Tower meetings and alllllll the other dirt they dug up on Trump, both real and imagined.
The Mueller report said that the strong appearance of collusion was because the goals of the Russians and the Trump campaign were in alignment but that they were only fellow travelers rather than colluders. It also reported likely obstruction of justice offenses by Trump and his campaign that were they pursued would result in additional information coming to light that could impact the conclusions about collusion.
So they couldn't come up with quite enough evidence, and it probably happened, but they just let it go. The implication was pretty strong. Much of their base bought it.
The founders would be horrified at the carnage caused by easily available weaponry and immediately seek to amend the second amendment.
That's your opinion, mine is that the founders would be horrified at the carnage RECRUITED by the sensationalism in today's multi-million dollar news media, and would seek to reword and amend the first amendment. ABC actually slipped up just this evening, and admitted that this most recent shooter referred to and copied actions of past shooters. That was all they said. Chances are when the police entered her home after the shooting, they found references there (news clippings, video, etc) that proved it. That didn't stop ABC from continuing to show more pictures of her just tonight, pictures of her in the school, etc. And they probably will tomorrow night. Future shooters are taking notes. Did you watch the first 5 minutes of the video I showed above? Gutfeld has pictures and descriptions that he put together in a very concise way, much better than I can, since he has access and staff that I don't have. For me to attempt to do it wouldn't pay much.
I think terrorism originating from places like Afghanistan, Iran, Syria and so forth, is a very real threat, but not invasion. None of them have significant navies, Afghanistan's possibly being non-existent.
But all of them, if asked the question, "Would you rather see the U.S. public remain armed, or disarmed by its government?", you and I know what their answer would be.
Conspiratorial thinking does seem to dominate conservative thought. The 2020 election was stolen, Sandy Hook was faked, the Democrats are running a Satanic pedophile ring out of a pizza parlor basement, Nancy Pelosi's husband attacker was actually his gay lover, and so on.
Of course it goes both ways. The 2016 election was stolen, Republicans want climate change, fossil fuel use by Republicans will kill us all in 10 years, it's a "ticking time bomb". Trump paid off a hooker with his own money, border agents whipping poor illegals with reigns, kids in cages on the border only a problem when a Republican is president, on and on.

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Percy
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Message 1165 of 1184 (909451)
04-04-2023 8:28 AM
Reply to: Message 1164 by marc9000
04-03-2023 9:13 PM


Re: What Damage an AR-15 Can Do
I'm not going to be your fact checker, Marc. It would be unending and thankless work, not to mention a moving target. Suffice to say that you believe a lot of weird things, especially that the media in general and ABC World News Tonight in particular are the source of much of what's wrong with America.
Did you watch the first 5 minutes of the video I showed above? Gutfeld has pictures and descriptions that he put together in a very concise way, much better than I can, since he has access and staff that I don't have. For me to attempt to do it wouldn't pay much.
No, I didn't watch any of it. From the Forum Guidelines:
  1. Points should be supported with evidence and reasoned argumentation. Address rebuttals through the introduction of additional evidence or by enlarging upon the argument. Do not repeat previous points without further elaboration. Avoid bare assertions.
  2. Bare links with no supporting discussion should be avoided. Make the argument in your own words and use links as supporting references.
Use your words and back them with reliable sources.
--Percy

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marc9000
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Message 1166 of 1184 (909501)
04-04-2023 9:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1165 by Percy
04-04-2023 8:28 AM


Re: What Damage an AR-15 Can Do
I'm not going to be your fact checker, Marc.
My dream was that, in response to my posts, you'd employ knowledge from multiple sources of news, so you'd have a better idea of what's ACTUALLY GOING ON around you. But I guess not.
marc9000 writes:
Did you watch the first 5 minutes of the video I showed above? Gutfeld has pictures and descriptions that he put together in a very concise way, much better than I can, since he has access and staff that I don't have. For me to attempt to do it wouldn't pay much.

No, I didn't watch any of it.
Of course you didn't - you know all about your perception of Fox News "lies", yet you don't watch it.
From the Forum Guidelines:
Uh oh, the forum guidelines card is being played. You might want to work on that poster from Message 1123, who put up nothing but a cartoon picture in that message.

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Theodoric
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Message 1167 of 1184 (909503)
04-04-2023 11:15 PM
Reply to: Message 1166 by marc9000
04-04-2023 9:05 PM


Re: What Damage an AR-15 Can Do

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Percy
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Message 1168 of 1184 (909522)
04-05-2023 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 1166 by marc9000
04-04-2023 9:05 PM


Re: What Damage an AR-15 Can Do
marc9000 writes:
Of course you didn't - you know all about your perception of Fox News "lies", yet you don't watch it.
The lies of Fox News are reported by legitimate news media. The Washington Post and New York Times report at length across many articles about the lying at Fox News. This Washington Post article, At center of Fox News lawsuit, Sidney Powell and a ‘wackadoodle’ email, reports Tucker Carlson texting privately that "Sidney Powell is lying," yet Fox News didn't relent. The Post goes on to report that despite Carlson continuing to express doubts about Powell that Fox News felt they had to continue promoting her views or they would lose audience:
Washington Post:
Yet executives also were growing concerned about the threat of declining ratings, as viewers who clung to Trump’s account of a stolen election began to gravitate toward smaller rivals, such as Newsmax and One America, that championed those arguments. In internal communications, executives and some prime-time hosts expressed concern that contradicting the election-fraud claims would further alienate those viewers.
That Fox News is a propaganda rather than a news organization is widely known and reported. One doesn't have to watch their channel to be informed about what they're doing.
But you're perfectly within your right to defend Fox News, so why don't you go ahead.
--Percy

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marc9000
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Message 1169 of 1184 (909565)
04-05-2023 8:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1168 by Percy
04-05-2023 9:49 AM


Re: What Damage an AR-15 Can Do
...legitimate news media. The Washington Post and New York Times..
But you're perfectly within your right to defend Fox News, so why don't you go ahead.
I can't right now, I just can't.
But what I'd like to do, in the future as an obligation I somehow feel to do what I can to slow the eventual demise of this dying forum, is what I did in Message 306- to rescue the Biden Presidency thread which you started, from (that time) 8 months worth of crickets. When something happens in the Biden presidency that the supreme beings at the NYT or WAPO somehow miss, I'll make it clear in my own words, with multiple links to confirm it, so that I'll dare not break any forum rules, and I'll MAKE SURE not to do it next April 1st, when forum rules are suspended for a day. Then we'll see which one of the two possible reactions happen, A) It will be almost completely ignored, like that one was, or B) I'll get called a barrage of vulgar names. It'll be fun!

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Message 1170 of 1184 (909566)
04-05-2023 8:56 PM
Reply to: Message 1169 by marc9000
04-05-2023 8:17 PM


Re: What Damage an AR-15 Can Do
Irrelevant and off topic

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 1171 of 1184 (909582)
04-06-2023 8:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1169 by marc9000
04-05-2023 8:17 PM


Re: What Damage an AR-15 Can Do
marc9000 writes:
...legitimate news media. The Washington Post and New York Times..
But you're perfectly within your right to defend Fox News, so why don't you go ahead.
I can't right now, I just can't.
Sure you can. You need only explain why the discovery phase of the Dominion proceedings didn't reveal exactly what it looks like, Fox News airing whatever enables it to keep and gain viewers without regard to truth, accuracy, honesty and integrity.
But what I'd like to do, in the future as an obligation I somehow feel to do what I can to slow the eventual demise of this dying forum,...
I've been saying we're dying for years now, but look at it this way. Where's MySpace? Where's Napster?
Where's Digg? Where's AltaVista, WebCrawler, Lycos and Infoseek (search engines)? Nothing lasts forever, but EvC Forum began in 2001 and for now it's still here, having outlasted probably 99% of the other websites that were alive in 2001.
...is what I did in Message 306- to rescue the Biden Presidency thread which you started, from (that time) 8 months worth of crickets. When something happens in the Biden presidency that the supreme beings at the NYT or WAPO somehow miss, I'll make it clear in my own words, with multiple links to confirm it, so that I'll dare not break any forum rules,...
Marc, I'm only reminding you about the Forum Guidelines. I have no enforcement powers here because I'm a participant. I *did* respond to your Message 306. I endorsed finding and punishing wrongdoing. If any of the things Comer said turn out to be true then I hope they investigate and indict, but Comer's recent record on truth and accuracy has been on par with Fox News.
I'm not a Democrat or a Republican or even an independent. I've made no secret that I'm socially liberal and financially conservative, but when it comes to politics I say, "A pox on all their houses." Anyone desiring public office is dubious in my mind, but if they display competent and unbiased judgment they have a good chance of drawing my vote.
But my political neutrality doesn't mean sticking my head in the sand. There are obvious differences between legitimate news media and Fox News. One exchanges lies for ratings, the others don't.
And there are equally obvious differences between the Trump and Biden administrations. One tried to overrun a US election, incited insurrection, turned the Justice Department into his personal legal firm, obstructed justice, shook down foreign governments to stay at his hotels, tried to shake down Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden in exchange for missile approval, was impeached twice, paid money to keep negative information out of the public eye, misstated the values of his properties for profit, lied about his possession of government documents, including secure ones, and made 30573 false or misleading claims over 4 years. The other didn't.
...and I'll MAKE SURE not to do it next April 1st, when forum rules are suspended for a day.
Boy, you sure turn into a sourpuss when a joke goes over your head. My post was just one in a sequence of six consecutive April Fool's Day posts, a couple containing ridiculously over-the-top fake links like Supreme Court Quashes Trump Indictment (actually a link to the history of cricket) and Trump admits it was all a scam. "I lost," he says. (actually a self-referential link).
A) It will be almost completely ignored, like that one was, or B) I'll get called a barrage of vulgar names. It'll be fun!
i think your behavior here has drawn the treatment it deserves.
--Percy

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