Huckabee

Well, if you want to discuss Obama specifically, brenna just started a thread on him. Look at the All Topics page and scroll down.Added by edit:I'm an ass. I should have supplied a link myself.Edited by Chiroptera, : No reason given.

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He fought for the South for no reason that he could now recall, other than the same one all men fought for: because he'd been a damn fool. -- Garth Ennis

oh no. you're not sending that conspiracy theory crap into my thread. there's an old thread on the obama conspiracies. if that's closed, get your own.

I agree. Hence why I'm waiting for what New Hampshire does as it has a far larger number of moderate independents who can come and go in the caucuses. Still, I'd rather have Ohio go first as it's far more representative of the country then either Iowa or New Hampshire.

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How could anyone spend more, increase the size of government more, or have less fiscal responsibility, than a modern Reagan-Bush Republican? They squander more money than a crack whore.

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How could anyone be worse than Bush? I didn't know Buchanan or Pierce were running.

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Do you really want to find out? Remember, just as there is someone who is always better then you, there is always someone who is worse.

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It appears from his website that he's pretty much of a conservative, i.e. to conserve the standards for the nation that the founders installed, employed and envisioned for the future. These standards are the ones which have made the nation the world's most blessed, where freedom has rang for the first two centuries.

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Sure they do Buzz. Thanks for admitting that his supporters don't care about libertarianism or fiscal conservatism.Huck is a big spending liberal with socially conservative ideas. In essence another Neo-Con. Taking the worst aspects of liberalism and melding them with the worst aspects of Conservatism.

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ABE: The really dangerous one, the ultra-liberal Obama who's principle spiritual mentor is a pro black Muslim Louis Farrakan lubber and who advocates a whole lot of what our founders

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Your political ideas are just as insane as your science beliefs.

Yeah, I've been in a pretty good mood lately.- Any room for us far left nut jobs? Any jobs for college level math teachers (although I bet the level I teach would be more comparable to high school there)? Or will I have to drive a taxi?

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He fought for the South for no reason that he could now recall, other than the same one all men fought for: because he'd been a damn fool. -- Garth Ennis

I believe you meant to say death knell, but that is neither here nor there. Why would it be their death knell? Why?

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“First dentistry was painless, then bicycles were chainless, and carriages were horseless, and many laws enforceless. Next cookery was fireless, telegraphy was wireless, cigars were nicotineless, and coffee caffeineless. Soon oranges were seedless, the putting green was weedless, the college boy was hatless, the proper diet -- fatless. New motor roads are dustless, the latest steel is rustless, our tennis courts are sodless, our new religion -- Godless” -Arthur Guiterman

He'd be worse than bush

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I don't really know. I was interested in him the first time I heard some of his plans. He's been my guy since the pre-elections began. But, admittedly, I didn't think he had a snowballs chance in hell because all the people I usually want in office end up losing. I then have to pick a lesser of evils. Pshhh. His recommendations are completely worthless to me. He epitomizes everything that went wrong and is one of the main reasons why people despise Christendom. The fact that he is endorsing Guliani, of all people, just shows that his ambitions are worldly related, and not for the things of above, as he claims. I can't speak for everyone, but the reasons I like him is because, unlike almost all of the rest of the candidates, he explains, in detail, how he is going to do something. I'm really sick of the candidates that foist these banal platitudes who don't give an inkling as to how they are going to implement it. I also appreciate his convictions. He doesn't waiver like many of them. Almost all the other GOP candidates have flip-flopped on central issues. The abortion issue should never have been left to be decided by the Supreme Court. It should come down to either a national vote, or left to the states to divide for themselves as the Constitution stipulates. Since marriage has always been defined as being between a man and a woman, I hardly see how that is an amendment to the Constitution. Trying to change it, recognizing same-sex marriages, would be the amending of the Constitution.Aside from which, DOMA was enacted by former president Clinton. No one can say that it was the invention of the GOP. Well, "victory" is loosely defined. So until someone can present an intelligible treatise on what victory in Iraq means, then as a person running for President, he owes it to the people to define the objective. This was a silly law and a convenient way for Clinton to sidestep the issue just enough to keep people from both sides of the argument mildly happy. But I happen to agree with it. I don't think people should be barred from military service because they are suspected of being a homosexual. However, there is no discounting why it is the way it is. Men and women cannot utilize the same facilities, can't serve together in many capacities because it is a disaster waiting to happen.Huckabee was asked about it. He said that it was not about being gay or straight, but that its about conduct. Unit cohesion needs to be found, whether gay or straight.

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My faith is my life - it defines me. My faith doesn't influence my decisions, it drives them. For example, when it comes to the environment, I believe in being a good steward of the earth. I don't separate my faith from my personal and professional lives.

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Linear, you forget that everyone lives this way. Everyone believes their way is the right way, otherwise, they wouldn't maintain that belief. I don't see why his personal feelings on a matter should be any different than anyone else's. In fact, to try and take that away from him is dogma and the abrogation of personal freedom, in and of itself.I remember last election cycle when Kerry stated that his faith didn't get in the way of how he thought. He stated, "I don't wear my religion on my sleeve." Then why do you ascribe to a religion, when the whole point is that it does define your outlook?He was just trying to play both sides of the field. And it backfired on him miserably, because values and convictions became the defining principle in the last election.

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“First dentistry was painless, then bicycles were chainless, and carriages were horseless, and many laws enforceless. Next cookery was fireless, telegraphy was wireless, cigars were nicotineless, and coffee caffeineless. Soon oranges were seedless, the putting green was weedless, the college boy was hatless, the proper diet -- fatless. New motor roads are dustless, the latest steel is rustless, our tennis courts are sodless, our new religion -- Godless” -Arthur Guiterman

That kind of double standard doesn't seem to matter to many of the people on the forum. These rules of decency only apply to avowed Christians.Its the American way

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“First dentistry was painless, then bicycles were chainless, and carriages were horseless, and many laws enforceless. Next cookery was fireless, telegraphy was wireless, cigars were nicotineless, and coffee caffeineless. Soon oranges were seedless, the putting green was weedless, the college boy was hatless, the proper diet -- fatless. New motor roads are dustless, the latest steel is rustless, our tennis courts are sodless, our new religion -- Godless” -Arthur Guiterman

Precisely. I expect Dear Ol' Huck to get slaughtered in secular New Hampshire.As a Libertarian Fiscal Conservative, there isn't much I like about Huck.

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Why would it be their death knell?

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Possibly because the party would split into "Yay Jesus" and everyone else who's sick and tired of evangelicals running the party?

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Why?

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Because the last thing we need is another Neo-Con to spend us into bankruptcy, ignore science and implement religious programs that have no empirical basis?

nem, it's not that rules of decency don't apply to anyone else. it's that buzsaw is making up conspiracies again, and torching his straw men.obama is not a muslim, regardless of any of the standard drivel that buz has to say about islam.

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more rambling about islam. anti-jewish, you mean? i would wager that more than half of all the muslims in the world are semitic themselves. i think we've had quite enough of buzsaw's patented brand of anti-islam strawmen, and this post already borders on downright racism. if you wish to discuss obama, go to the obama thread. but i think you'll find most of the objections from people here are that he's too christian.

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but i think you'll find most of the objections from people here are that he's too christian

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But shouldn't a history of a politician in how they use their religion matter more? For instance Ron Paul who's strongly religious has I dare say never voted yes on a bill based on religious morality. In fact Dr. No has voted well, no on morality based bills. Wouldn't voters who are afraid of religious crazies who may use their beliefs in decisions be better off voting for a candidate who while religious, has a extremely long history of saying No to religiously based decisions?