Islam does not hate christianity

This is an opinion and the use of "humiliate" and "torment" only serves the purpose to cause an emotive response by the less discerning. The use of taxes is what it has always been...
cigarette taxes?
Alcohol taxes?
Even gas taxes...targets specific groups of people...so what? Maybe you can begin by supporting your opinion. Are you suggesting that capitalism is a christian trait? Seems odd since christians aren't supposed to be trying to amass success, money, and power here on earth...right? Oookaaay, I think that you might have a specific example in mind, unfortunately you tread into ignorance by saying it applies to all Muslims/Islamic states. Yes, find the facts please it would serve you better. Like I said you might be thinking of a very specific place, if so, please let us know because making a generalized statement like this makes you look ill-informed.

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Hey, Faith, let`s move away from the Amalekites. You believe God created bacteria? Viruses?

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Both Amalekites and bacteria are off topic. The topic is Islam. But of course God created bacteria and viruses. SUSCEPTIBILITY to disease, however, is the product of sin in the whole human race.

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Christians and Jews have always had favoured status among infidels in the Islamic worls as also being People of the Book.

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You've been reading propaganda. You need to read the people who know what really happened. If I have time later I will dig up more references, but jihadwatch.org and faithfreedom.org have lots of resources for anybody who wants to know the truth about Islam. Neither is a Christian site.

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care to back this statement with some real examples? Back home in Indonesia I think the Christians on average are slightly more prosperous than the majority Muslims. There are large churches and large houses owned by Christians in my hometown. You high on something or what?

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Perhaps they haven't gotten around to enforcing Sharia on the infidels where you come from, as the Muslims are latecomers outside of the Middle East. But there's plenty of persecution of Christians by Muslims going on wherever there are both groups.

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Perhaps they haven't gotten around to enforcing Sharia on the infidels where you come from, as the Muslims are latecomers outside of the Middle East.

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They hadn't gotten around to it in Tanzania, either, when I was living in Africa, and Islam had been present there for centuries. Christians and Muslims were pretty much living peacefully side-by-side. In fact, one Muslim I knew told me that it is unIslamic to force others into your religion.Faith, where do you live? How do you know so much about Islam? Andya Primanda is a Muslim, and I lived among Muslims for three years; how is it that we missed so much about Islam?

*cough*BS*cough*Ever hear of NORAID?

Jar, Jar, Jar....Aslan is the only Lion, Arie Gur Yehuda.

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A good source to learn the truth about Allah is the Koran.

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A good source to learn the truth about the Koran is?????
Subject is Koran, don't change it.

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"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Hey, Albert, I agree!

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And your post is wrong on two counts mister! I challenge you to back up your assertion

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Which one?Muslim groups do not support terrorism? ok!Lucky for you - you have seen the opposite of support for terrorism. But then, they are not the issue.
Those that are, somehow find incentive in the Koran to do what they do. If only for the promise of heavenly rewards.
What is it in the Koran that gives them such license?

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"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Hey, Albert, I agree!

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Is God the god of Christians? I guess He is, but I thought the Christians' God is not God but Jesus also?

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To explain it in terms you may understand, if you have children, are they one with you, flesh of your flesh, spirit of your spirit?It does not explain the mystery that is God, nothing can.

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"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Hey, Albert, I agree!

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Ever hear of NORAID?

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Yes I have. The purpose of NORAID?The same as that of Islamic terrorist groups?
OK!

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"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Hey, Albert, I agree!

The supply and training of republican irish (predominantly catholic) terrorists....Oh ok I see what you mean its only terrorism if you aren't xtian....how silly of me....

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Faith prates:

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Why is there so much just plain rudeness and meanness on this site? "Prates" doesn't fit anything I've said. [quote] So many these days are apparently incapable of discriminating between murder and justice on just about every major issue. To call God's justice genocide is a case of this popular moral reversal.

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From The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language:

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genocide - The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.

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The motive is what makes it either murder or justice. When God does anything it is perfect justice and He explains His reasons for anyone who cares to find out.

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Need I present you with the definition of 'justice' as well:

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justice - The quality of being just; fairness.

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And the execution of the Amalekites was just and fair, utterly exactly correct by the laws of this universe established by the God who made it, whose own created human beings have the effrontery to question His wisdom.

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I am perfectly capable of distinguishing murder and genocide from justice. I'm afraid it is you who are confused. God ordered the systematic extermination of an entire race of innocent people, including suckling infants. Therefore God is just as bad as Hitler. No blood-thirsty Christian is ever going to convince me that genocide is ever, under any circumstances whatsoever, justifiable. It is immoral and reprehensible. You are the one who is saying otherwise.

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Then I won't try to persuade you. You've made up your mind.

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The moral high ground you think you are standing on is extremely shaky.

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No it's not. My morality is one in which genocide is unacceptable under any circumstances whatsoever. It's what you might call a 'moral absolute'. Ever heard that phrase before? Perhaps not, since you clearly don't understand the concept.

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And from whence do you derive the authority to establish such moral absolutes? "YOUR" morality? Uh huh. Hitler established HIS own moral absolutes too.

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Exodus 34:6-7 The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear [the guilty]; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth [generation].

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Yes, yes, the same God who orders cold-blooded genocide. The same God who enjoys seeing little suckling babies ruthlessly killed. The same God who punishes the innocent for the sins of the guilty. That would be your God, certainly not mine.

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Well, we'll see which God it is you are facing at the Judgment. Take care.

Unlike many African nations, Tanzania is not a Muslim nation. It has a Christian majority on the mainland which has about 34 million people, about 55% Christian and 35% Muslim. The archipalego/island of Zanzibar which is part of Tanzania has about 99% Muslim. The nation has a fairly good constitution which forbids persecution and guarantees the rights of all religions, including some Hindu and Buddhists, etc. It also forbids religious from politicizing and being proselytized in schools, though all religions may be taught in schools.Zanzibar is autonimous and interestingly that's where there's less freedom and where women are not treated well. There are about a million people there. That's where more of the unrest and confrontation between religions exist. Zanzibar recently joined the Islamic fundamentalist Organization Of The Islamic Conferance, along with Nigeria which has some concerned about the future. Foreign Islamic fundamentalists have been infiltrating Tanzania with Islamic fundamentalistic influence and disruptive activities including incitement of riots, etc.It appears the closer the Islamic gets to Mohammed, the Koran, Islamic Haddiths and Sunnas the more intolerant and brutal and intolerant Muslims become.

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In Jehovah God's Universe; time, energy and boundless space had no beginning and will have no ending. The universe, by and through him, is, has always been and forever will be intelligently designed, changed and managed by his providence. buzsaw

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A society can't let sociopaths go free to harm people.

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Sure, but the people we are talking about aren't sociopaths. At best they're the grandchildren of sociopaths, and we don't visit any particular hardships on the children of criminals in our society.

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We don't because we are not God or even a theocracy in the direct command of God. The Israelites were chosen for the unique role of showing the world the judgments of God and being the tribe from which was to come the Savior of the World who was to save us from those judgments. I quoted Exodus where it is clearly said that the children of haters of God are visited by the sins of the fathers to the third and fourth generations. That's a moral law of the universe we live in, but Jesus came to save us from its eternal consequences.

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You can't forbear crimes against others, that's a violation of justice.

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What crime can these children have committed? We're talking about punishing them for crimes that their relatives committed.

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Yes, we are, as per the law I've quoted twice now and discussed above. Jesus frees us from it, otherwise it operates as God said.

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As I said it can't be understood until you first realize that He is good.

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No, it's quite the opposite. It can't be understood if you assume that God is good.

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I very specifically and carefully did NOT say "assume" I said "realize" and I also said this is learned from much evidence and it takes time to learn it. But you prefer your self-righteousness to the righteousness of the God who made you so I leave you to your folly.

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I'm not righteous. But the thing is, I have God's own sense of good and evil. He said so, in the Bible.

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Before our first parents ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil they were innocent of all evil. They didn't even know what good was because you can't unless you know there is both good and evil. Afterward they knew and since they had committed sin by disobeying God death had entered the human race and further propensity to sin. But you can't trust your ability to recognize the difference after generations of fallenness. Do you trust everybody else's moral judgments? Of course not. Only your own. But they have the same inheritance you have.

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No, there are other evidences of God's love and goodness, tons of them, in the Bible and in our own lives.

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Even Jeffery Dahmer could remember flowers on Mother's Day, or to tip the pizza guy. Just because you can point to something loving and good God did over here doesn't mean that everything God does must be loving and good.

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Anyone who would make such evil comparisons is frighteningly self-destructive.

So, where and what are you talking about exactly because it is untrue for Egypt as well as the other places mentioned by Chiroptera and AP. It sounds to me like you have a specific group in mind and a specific location...so out with it!