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ElliPhant
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Message 1 of 6 (102362)
04-24-2004 3:01 AM


Hello! I just regisered today
I've had a bit of a look around but I think I'll aquaint myself a bit more before I start posting!
I'm a 21 year old University Student and I look forward to discussions with you in the near future
Bye for now!

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NosyNed
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Message 2 of 6 (102363)
04-24-2004 3:04 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by ElliPhant
04-24-2004 3:01 AM


W e l c o m e !
Welcome, Elliphant.
Enjoy the discussions. May I suggest you read:
Message 1
Message 1

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Andya Primanda
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Message 3 of 6 (102364)
04-24-2004 3:55 AM


Welcome Elliphant!
[Ah, another proboscidean. Too bad the resident big hairy one had been pushed to extinction...]

ElliPhant
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Message 4 of 6 (102366)
04-24-2004 3:58 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by NosyNed
04-24-2004 3:04 AM


Re: W e l c o m e !
Thanks muchly, I ran across one of those links in my travels and am glad to have the matching set

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Death_stranger 
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Message 5 of 6 (103211)
04-27-2004 10:16 PM


PleaseReconstructing the Image of Christ . . Communicating shroud issues :
(?) The Image, Reconstructing the Image of Christ Forensic (Criminal) Investigative techique(s); ** **
[This message has been edited by Death_stranger, 04-28-2004]

Death_stranger 
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Message 6 of 6 (103212)
04-27-2004 10:16 PM


The Image, Reconstructing the Image of Christ . . Communicating shroud issues :
(?) originaly by: Death_stranger
The Image, Reconstructing the Image of Christ . . Communicating
issues surrounding cellulose & "the-fiber" of or Image formation on the-Shroud with Confidence ?
(?)
originated by: Death_stranger & people who can go beyond any
introductory or biographical information
Goal or Idea is not to diswade from your belief , nor is it point out mistake(s), but by a methodical re-examining arguments (and facts); you've not lessen the conviction As a novice to this subject, the Man of Sin, the Turin Shroud,& the Faces found at-the Shroud of Lirey-Chambry Turin) Only the facts, or if there was an original back of the Artifact Only the facts, expanding your views that start to de-mythologizing the evidence cited the Shroud and what can-be determined or from Its' characteristics from the Forensic (Criminal) Investigative techique(s); derive in the team's data (collected from the Shroud); especially from non-(STURP) team or Updated scienctific data Index of / /antonaci.pdf We can NOT have it both ways nor Support ImageTheory of Sou African Prof. Allen, Nicholas PL (ALLEN and /or A Craig) A. K. A : Protophoto
[That would be able to look at the raw Science data that corresponces to what can be determined , only] With an increasingly sophisticated in equipment, methods to add to understanding by both uses the advanced Investigative techique(s) & instrumentation and Updated scienctific data
** .evcforum. **
As Unemployed Erich Petersen said, ". . Bet you didn't see that comming out all over" Later he said "Boy, I've heard of rolling in your grave but this.." he immediately took it all back ( too much of a shot, irresponsible & reckless attack ) Speculation about the image formation has also grown as this remained hidden with questions about the piece of Holland cloth (sewn by nuns) to if the orginal Shroud of Lirey-Chambry-Turin or if there was an original back of the Artifact As for study, these being a physical 'objects' artifact(s) such as the shroud more and more an interest[if not]for their authenticity, then for some interest to the Christian(s) How are we to react :unworthily,wouldn't you know,there's a basic explaination for varying rationalities without recognition of other ways of knowing, there appears to be a misconception about the scientific method and this is not the only misconception -- and the changing evidence Anthropometric & Imaging perspective of the:"faint"image on the back of the Shroud of Lirey-Chambry-Turin -- Image formation and the changing evidence from advances in the science of the holy Artifact, have some explaining away things that are raised about the Relic from each of the 3 Camps,.(a Reply) Scientists have found a matching Image of Man's face and possibly his hands on the back of the Turin shroud, believed by many to be have been an Image of Christ in His Tomb and burial(?) The Image Note: Remember, Remember, Iron Oxide is not responsible for the image on the cloth [1988 is another life time ; & a long time ago] All "amateur archaeologists", or "amateur anthropology Majors" who are willing to avail themselves of this opportunity are welcome
** Giulio Fanti (Italy) an IMAGING RESOURCE is known in the United States as an Imaging expert and writes for several trade magazines & is a contributor Journal of-Imaging Science and Technology , Italian scientists aren't for taking a chance, surprise with Analysis & advisor on new findings Reversal of fortune borrowing from the article , "[the]Shroud has the image of a man's face and this may . . shed light on" . . "more likely to fuel further debate" A shroud conference I suspect is having a treatment on the back from the newest discoveries Truly have been more and more interesting in 2001 and now in 2004. With the Italian scientists-See: Roberto Maggiolio of Padova University used various image-processing techniques seen in photographs of the Shroud (Jo. of Opt. A6 491). image-processing techniques revealing the Faces on the reverse side of the controversially Artifact.
It's hard say, who can believe it's 1st-Century Article-& demonstrate the level of fanaticism only from the Man of Sin,. With this resent "':secondary' image" can tell me a lot about a person but little of the Anthropometric Analysis of-the Man's 2ndFacial areas That's plenty hard, Thank you for keeping this mysterious linen alive even w/ increasing pressures (challenges) towards finally settling this ; or going a less controversial route arises Let's go beyond the introductory level in the space provided; whose that will avail themselves of-more than an opportunity and hammer out these issues even as a novice
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