The bible and homosexuality

Homosexuality is inverted behavior not conducive to health or the established 'request' to be 'fruitful and multiply'. For God to condone it, certainly would be against his establishment. For these reasons, it doesn't matter a hill of beans whether the Old or New Testament speaks against it, and the New Testament does most vehemently speak against it. I believe there is heterosexual behavior that is foul and unhealthy, and I do not care how people get their jollies. But the contention that God has somehow changed his rules to suit our times, is ridiculous since health and multiplying are still extant facts. Does God want New Testament people to be healthy? Well, yes! Therefore, the laws of health as found in Leviticus, including those of sexual behavior, apply throuhout time and apply to all those who wish to obey the God who gave them. And that goes for the Ten Commandments, as found in Exodus, mostly. "I am the Lord, I change not".
As for the number of translations being the reason for the number of sects, no, that is not it. It is the number of interpretations of the Written Word that are the cause. Well, think about it.

Thank you so much for your kind advice. As for how far I will get on this forum.....let's just say I won't do your research for you. Get a good concordance and do your own. It will do you a world of good. Reference, cross-reference and such and etc. Good luck.

Thank you for being straight forward, I am so myself. That style of approaching conversation is often misinterpreted. Alas, it has not changed me.
Christ came to fulfill the law, not to change it. It is immutable for the very reason that it is an expression of God's character and how he thinks and what he deems appropriate for his creation. Christ came to bring salvation, and that alone. Not one jot or tittle will pass from the law....etc. He also did not come to make animals clean to eat, that is ridiculous, why make them unclean for consumption and then change your mind.....because? What did cease is the ceremonial law of sacrifices. No longer necessary since the Lamb that was slain from the foundations of the world gave up.....Anal sex is a poor choice of intercourse method, since the anal cavity is fragile and not intended for the purpose.Christ has always been the intermediary, he has simply put on priestly robes since his sojourn on earth. Melchizedek.Nice talking with you.

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Apologies. Much goes on during the day in day out ......etc.
As a teacher, I give my knowledge, rarely my sources, but point in the general direction. I encourage students to do their own findings, the thrill of the search and discoveries, and the sense of accomplishment achieved, are non-pareil.
The people here know the general direction, and even the source, which is the Bible. The Bible being a highly controversial source, it is better the student find his way in it by himself with, hopefully, the Spirit as a guide, and then achieve knowledge. Come, let us reason together, says the Lord. After all this is done, the greatest challenge is to arrive at the same conclusions, which is highly doubtful, since so many of us are speaking through indoctrination, rather than our very own personal research, search, understanding, taking it for what it says rather than what we have been told it says/means. Homosexuality as the subject, the Bible clearly states 'thou shalt not'. And here we are in 2004, and we say 'well, it no longer applies to us because we live in a different time, and it really makes no difference what we do, etc., etc." If it feels good, do it.
Homosexuality does not achieve God's purpose of Adam and Eve/Man and Woman. If it were acceptable to him, he would have said so, done so by making an additional pair, Adam and Steve. He did not. One poster wants to know what inversion means. He wants me to tell him, rather than go to the dictionary, and get a thrill from finding the meaning of the word all by himself. The thing is this, after he finds out the meaning of the word, he will not be happy but return and ask how it applies to the subject. Such is the nature of things. As for going away, well, you know I do not have to be here and only am to share what I know, perhaps make a friend or two, encourage, inspire, and love a little. Thank you for your time, sorry I got a bit preachy.
George
Oh, I also love Norse mythology and often travel the rainbow bridge to Asgar even tho I'm acrophobic (smile)

Nicely said. Enter a gerbil, and the theme takes on the bizarre, perversion at its ultimate. When, where, how, by whom, etc., disease is transmitted.....by now the best we could do is reverse the trent by practicing what is normal, according to Adam and Eve. This will not happen. Therefore, the discussion is mostly about did God mean what he said, does he mean what he says....."perverted sex is unhealthy, take a look at yourself, I wasn't kidding when I said 'don't do it'." And the rest is simply history.

Modern people and people of all time can will and do justify anything and everything. What you quote from the OT is an account of how people did things then. Because it appears in the Bible, is by no means approval of the practice, but an account and an example of how there is nothing new under the sun. God disapproves of homosexuality. If his warning/advice/command had been heeded........well, do you think there would be HIV today or other STD's promoted through practice of practicing multiple partners....and so on? Moot point? As for being smarter than you? I would never be so presumptious, knowing full well there are people with an IQ higher than 90.

Absolutely.
Watching the animals around him, Adam understood that something was missing from his life. The birds and the bees were having the kind of fun he thought he might want to have. So, God made some fun for him, and in return, fun for her.
That God made sex, and lust, and desire, is clear. What is not clear is how the connotation of such has changed over time. Today we feel a certain ... uh....embarrassment for feeling lusty, and sexy, and desireful. Desiring sex and engaging in it is not sin. Well, you know when it becomes so.

Alas, I have long forgotten what those questions are. One by one, please reiterate, time is not a friend to me, meaning - mine is limited. Yours? Too, eh?
I like your avatar. Nice to hear from you.

Use your own references, the one's you listed from Leviticus. And don't tell me the God of the OT differs in application from the one in the NT. Then do a google for homosexuality and the New Testament, write down the references you find, open your Bible and look them up. As for my teaching style, and who said I teach in Texas?, I cherish my success and my approach is carefully worked out to meet the needs of my teaching environment and students. I do appreciate your patience, try to learn from mine and what I am trying to do, and that is.........get your butt in gear, stop your blathering about my shortcomings, and rather than tell me of mine, work on yours, the beam in my eye is no bigger than the one in yours.
God disapproves of homosexuality. Find the scripture that says otherwise. Find the scripture that says yes it is ok for men to lie with one another, or women getting it on with women, for that matter, or animals, or whatever perversion is now acceptable. So far as tearing an argument to pieces, please, whatever floats your boat. I promise I will let you do as you wish.

I agree that you should do whatever makes you happy.

I am looking forward to being ignored. Thank you, and I hope you know how to keep a promise.

You don't see it? you don't see it! Is that o.k.? Yes, that is o.k.?

If you wish to identify with animals, that is your affair. Man is created on a higher order and should engage his brain before he engages in 'if it feels good, it must be ok, so do it'.
The distinction is between believers in a moral god, and non-believers. The moral god disdains all acts of perversion, including homosexuality. Regardless of the slant you put on 'it is written'. Paul was in instrument of the Holy Spirit. The latter was able to use an unusual man.
As it is, believers go round and round with unbelievers, where they should not. Round and round has no end in sight, no solution, no agreement, not that any of this is wanted.
God says no to all kinds of things. We say yes because we know better than he, we know what's good for us, after all.....
Christians, let go of those who would vex your spirit. You will not convince them, for here they go round and round again.
Maranatha!

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