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coffee_addict
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Message 46 of 52 (109363)
05-19-2004 10:40 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Rrhain
12-19-2003 3:35 PM


Rrhain writes:
Well, there was the Star Trek: Voyager episode where a group of dinosaur-like creatures find a human (a dead Voyager crewman) and through genetic analysis conclude that he is related to them. This helps to confirm their "distant origin" hypothesis that these saurians didn't arise in this part of the galaxy but actually came from somewhere else...and it turns out that they are descended from Earth dinosaurs.
This, of course, contradicts doctrine and after great drama, the saurian scientists are given a choice: Death to the entire Voyager crew and punishment to all of the saurian scientist families or denounce the "distant origin" claim which, of course, they do.
Thanx to the person that brought forth this old topic, I felt an itch and needed to correct something-- I'm a trekie.
The saurian "queen b*tch" gave the ultimatum that the scientist had to either publically accept doctrine or they would destroy Voyager and condemn the crew to a mining prison on some remote asteroid. It's been a few years since I've seen this episode, but I'm pretty sure she didn't threaten to kill the voyager crew.
Ok, back to topic. The Adventures of Baron Munchausen. Funny movie and a must-watch for everyone. It denounces human reason and embraces fantasy.

The Laminator

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crashfrog
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Message 47 of 52 (109369)
05-20-2004 12:32 AM
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05-19-2004 10:40 PM


The Adventures of Baron Munchausen.
Can anyone explain how we get from this charming fantasy to the pernicious "Munchausen by proxy" syndrome, where a parent deliberately poisons their child so as to stay in the position of having to care for them? I don't see the connection, offhand.

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Asgara
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Message 48 of 52 (109371)
05-20-2004 12:42 AM
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05-20-2004 12:32 AM


It is named after the Baron's outrageous and fanciful stories.
There are actually two types of Munchausen's...one is the ultimate hypochondriac. The stories of life threatening disease and miraculous recovery keep these people feeling important and the center of attention.
Munchausen's by Proxy is the scarier version where a caregiver deliberately keeps their child, parent..whomever...sick to receive the attention given to the poor sacrificing caregiver.

Asgara
"Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it"
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MexicanHotChocolate
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Message 49 of 52 (116311)
06-18-2004 4:32 AM
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05-20-2004 12:32 AM


Munchausen by proxy is named for Baron Munchausen because he was a fablous liar and so are the people with this condition.

Our loyalties are to the species and the planet. We speak for Earth. Our obligation to survive is owed not just to ourselves but also to that Cosmos, ancient and vast, from which we spring.
--Carl Sagan, 1934-1996

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Mission for Truth
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Message 50 of 52 (116446)
06-18-2004 12:48 PM


What is Inherit the Wind anyway? I've heard of it before I think but I don't know the basis of what it's about... Also, can I download it anywhere? If you know - let me know.

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berberry
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Message 51 of 52 (116456)
06-18-2004 1:13 PM
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06-18-2004 12:48 PM


Inherit The Wind is a McCarthy-era stage play about the Scopes trial of the 1920s. You'll recall that Scopes was a high-school science teacher charged with violating a stupid Tennessee law which forbade the teaching of ToE in the schools. The play was made into a famous motion picture in 1960 starring Spencer Tracy and Fredric March. I don't know if you can download it but you should be able to buy the script in book form or rent the movie at most any well-stocked video store.

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Mission for Truth
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Message 52 of 52 (116461)
06-18-2004 1:22 PM


Thanks Berberry

  
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