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Phat
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Message 61 of 65 (140362)
09-06-2004 1:39 PM
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09-06-2004 1:17 PM


Re: Linguistics and Explanations
So Brad, did you ever have any fun on these jungle excursions or was it all business?

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Brad McFall
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Message 62 of 65 (140365)
09-06-2004 1:43 PM
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09-06-2004 1:39 PM


Re: Linguistics and Explanations
Duplicate- soory I am on a MAC and probably missed a page or so.
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Brad McFall
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Message 63 of 65 (140366)
09-06-2004 1:45 PM
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09-06-2004 1:39 PM


Re: Linguistics and Explanations
Go ask me that on my namesake th
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read- there was no extraterrestrials there but I heard a radio report from the BBC about Geller bendings spoons as a colorful bird flew ^through^ into the summer house of the prior King of Belgium which was then but a mere research part of the country beyond said heart.
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Message 64 of 65 (140629)
09-07-2004 10:14 AM
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09-06-2004 1:45 PM


Christiansanity
To Christians who believe in the literal translation of the old testament...
I used to be an atheist until I discovered this forum (for a clue see my name). It was my intention to understand the mental attitude of "literal" Christians who have a convenient excuse for every single scientific observation that contradicts their beliefs.
My other motive was to find information that would convince my Mother, due to obsessive bible reading, that she should take her head of the sand and research other possibilities.
I can except there is a possibility that a God clicked his fingers and created the universe with its physical laws and matter with the inherent property of abiogenesis and sustaining life. However we can’t, and never will be able to, dust for his fingerprints (quote from a philosopher.) I do, however, think its more likely that the origin of matter and energy has a scientific explanation.
If it cannot be proven that God doesn’t exist — why do all the atheists spend their time and energy trying to convince close minded and primitively thinking Neanderthals otherwise? The only reason I can think of if for entertainment
It amuses me to listen to outrageous, embarrassing, naive, and childish, ramblings of Christians (like my Mother) defending certain biblical events which defy logic, common sense, or rational thinking.
I once believed the discovery of ET would be the one piece of evidence to eventually convince Christians that their faith is based on urban legend/ fairy tales. I was wrong; and as evidence one Christian (Oak tree) even managed to find an ambiguous passage in the bible to allow for such an event in Gods universe How utterly convenient!
Thanks for the amusement.
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Brad McFall
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Message 65 of 65 (141378)
09-10-2004 9:44 AM
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09-07-2004 10:14 AM


Re: Christiansanity
The diversity of means of versioning in life (hydrogen, helium, L,b...) does not mean as far as the coincidence goes that goals of relieving mental discomfort need necessarily be the same in the same chance theory that any lump of particles might format phenomenologically (see Campbell p197 Foundations of Science, Probability and Knowledge "But the apparent difference may arise only from the fact that it is quite impossible to contemplate equally a large number of alternatives, I cannot avoid dividing them subconsciously into groups; the alternatives of which I am thinking before the trial occurs are these groups and not the individual results of the trials. What I am prepared to assert in such cases is that, if I name beforehand any one of the alternative events, that event will not occur as a result of a trial. The mere fact that I have thought it distinguishes it in my mind from the rest; the alternatives that I am considering are, on the one hand, this particular event and, on the other, the group consisting of all the remainder. This group, taken as a whole, has a very great probability and if this highly probable event occurs, I shall expereince no suprise; but my suprise will be great indeed if the specially distinguished event occurs."
See Also Two places IN Kant's Critique of Judgement "
"The being of this kind is man, but man considered as noumenon, the only natural being in which we can recognize, on the side of its peculiar constitution, a supersensible faculty (freedom) and also the law of causality..."
&
"The formal condition under which nature can alone attain this its final design is that arrangement of men's relations to one another by which lawful authority in a whole, which we call a civil community, is opposed to the abuse of their conflicting freedoms; only in this can the greatest development of natural capacities take place. For this also there would be requisite - if men were clever enough to find it out and wise enough to submit themselves voluntarily to its constraint - a cosmopolitan whole, i.e. a system of all states that are in danger of acting injuriously upon one another. Zum ewigen Frieden (1795). Failing this...to the highest possible pitch." at METHODOLOGY OF THE TELEOLOGICAL JUDGEMENT.
all states that are in danger of acting injuriously upon one another. {These views are set forth by Kant more fully in the essay Zum ewigen Frieden (1795).} Failing this...to the highest possible pitch." at METHODOLOGY OF THE TELEOLOGICAL JUDGEMENT.
Please note that by forgeting the bracketed italic "i" and using a COPY of the text which contained braces"" what is inside this quote disappeared as seen in the raw text. There are braces between the quotes. You can not see them.
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