Fossil Ordering Re-Visited

PeterYou've understood our intention pretty well.We are proposing that a mix of these mechanisms may explain the fossil record. In any one place all three are operating. We don't pretend that we've proven it.Remember we're also convinced that not all of the 'out of sequence' fossils are explainable by folding or washing in.That ref you commented on could also be construed as suggesting that while it might be too difficult to predict ordering, at the same time it may still acount for it.

PeterThat's not how it works most of the time. Almost all fossils are distributed across many multiple strata. There are 'index fossils', sure, but they are only a general guide becasue their extents through the geological column keep expanding back and forward. Familes of genera typically cover 50 million years of strata.

Hi BlitzOK - what about the dinosaur track ways? In the standard YEC flood these are in between surge fresh sediments with dinosaurs escaping to higher ground?It seems to me that some convolution of sorting, biogeography and differential escape is the only the answer. Otherwsie most of Mesozoic (lots of land animals) needs to be post flood?[This message has been edited by Tranquility Base, 08-01-2002]

BlitzSo what's the deal for these guys - all of the Mesozoic and Cenozic was laid gradually? 1000s and 1000s of feet of sediment? With all of the dinosaur species, reptiles, birds and mammals emerging in some progressive order over how long? Are these guys YECs? Progressive OECs? I can't see how or why they want to have it both ways.OK - they suggest the post-Paleozoic occurred in the 200-300 years after the flood. They must be suggesting glacial melting or something??It seems to me that their arguement that there couldn't have been survival in highlands inbetween surges doesn't hold water (pun intended). Why not? The pattern of marine innundations every 70 million years or so (on the evoltuionary timescale) continues on from the Paleozoic into the Mesozoic. These were all flood surges.[This message has been edited by Tranquility Base, 08-01-2002]

It would be nice to have this alternative but generating the Mesozoic after the flood . . .

Sorry - Blitz and I were under the false impression that we were just two guys chatting on the internet about other people's work.[Sarcasm hat taken off]I know just what the fossil record looks like - I've perused hundreds of pages of balloon diagrams and anatomical diagrams. The balloon diagrams are the best way to view all the data.

Yes Blitz, this has always been a fascinating piece of evidence that the mainstream interpretaion of things isn't quite right (vast understatement). I'll be interested to hear what our local geologists have to say about this 200 million year unconfomity that looks like it has seen the amount of erosion one might get inbetween cloud breaks at an afternoon picnic.

Well that settles that one! [I'm learning Edge's sarcasm]200 million years and it sits so neatly on top of the previous formation? I forgot - did we quantitate the relief? And what about the interbedding?