Are you saying that whatever's posts are logical? Perhaps, then you can summarize his argument in logical terms. Identify the premises, sketch the logical development of his argument, and then identify his conclusion. That would be a big help, because when I read whatever's posts all I see are a bunch of statements that don't seem to be connected in any logical manner.
As far as the "verbosity" of my post, I'm not sure how I could have made it shorter. You don't seem to know what logic is, and I was trying to explain it to you as simply as I can. Perhaps you can provide an even more concise explanation of a logical argument.
Finally, as Crashfrog has pointed out, communism has never been implemented on a national scale. I have a friend who has joined a commune in Maryland, and I know that there are still a large number of communes in the US. From his description of life there, I wouldn't necessarily say it has manifested itself in bad ways. (I would also disagree with crashfrog that socialism has ever been implemented, but I fear that we would all just argue about the definition of the words, and that wouldn't be a very satisfying topic.)
If you want to discuss socialism/communism/Marxism/anarchism, maybe a new thread would be appropriate.
Edited to correct a couple of minor typos.
This message has been edited by Chiroptera, 10-04-2004 05:12 PM
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