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Topic: The "Gospel" Of John
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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 1 of 215 (165126)
12-04-2004 11:45 AM
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In several place it's been hinted at. In several places it has been discussed. And now... the discussion that has been brewing for ages... (in a galaxy far far away... thundering music..) "it's in the bible; the bible says it's the word of god." "i don't think it has any standing because of X" how do you feel about john? let's get some mad discussin' going on here. remember kids. people are going to disagree with you; try to keep it civil. this idea has gotten panties bunched every time. accuracy and inerrancy plz. This message has been edited by AdminPhat, 12-09-2004 04:17 AM Edited by AdminPhat, : bolded title
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macaroniandcheese
Suspended Member (Idle past 3950 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: 05-24-2004
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Message 4 of 215 (165624)
12-06-2004 10:53 AM
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Reply to: Message 3 by Phat
12-06-2004 3:49 AM
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Re: The one whom Jesus loved....
i think it's a book. i haven't studied it in particular and thus i have not made a decision. i do not place much stock in the bible as a whole as inerrant but i do believe it is an attempt by a people to describe a real god who may or may not be as benevolent as we make him out to be. this is why i started this thread. because i have friends who quite dislike john and those who believe in the infallibility of scripture.
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macaroniandcheese
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Message 6 of 215 (165783)
12-06-2004 10:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 5 by Phat
12-06-2004 9:31 PM
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Re: The one whom Jesus loved....
well one of my friends thinks it's heresy. my friends and i are weird and have weird conversations. i'm really easy going and i am more picky about the type of person i hang out with and not what they think.
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macaroniandcheese
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Re: The one whom Jesus loved....
yes *scrunches nose*
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macaroniandcheese
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Message 41 of 215 (166103)
12-08-2004 2:46 AM
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Reply to: Message 8 by Swift
12-07-2004 12:06 AM
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Re: The one whom Jesus loved....
i've been a christian for eighteen years. i am not afraid of hellfire or your accusations that i neither know my god nor the book by which he shows himself.
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macaroniandcheese
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Message 44 of 215 (166109)
12-08-2004 2:59 AM
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Reply to: Message 35 by Swift
12-07-2004 10:36 PM
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identifying the koran and the book or mormon as religious texts that many people believe in does not in any way state a belief in the texts. the point of his comment was that using new testament verses to prove to a jew that jesus is the messiah is about as useful as using verses in the mormon text to prove to you that joseph smith actually had scrolls that weren't just pages from the egyptian book of the dead. oh and since when does the financial well-being of the members of a religion have any bearing on the verity of that religion? i know a whole lot of really rich christians. in fact. there's this one christian who is so rich that he ran an oil company into the ground but could still afford to run for president, TWICE! oh yes. btw. if you paste your posts into word or another word processor, you can spellcheck them and then seem just that much more credible. This message has been edited by brennakimi, 12-08-2004 03:09 AM
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macaroniandcheese
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Message 45 of 215 (166116)
12-08-2004 3:14 AM
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Reply to: Message 35 by Swift
12-07-2004 10:36 PM
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i thought jesus was god's word... that's what john says...
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macaroniandcheese
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Message 62 of 215 (166602)
12-09-2004 4:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 54 by Swift
12-08-2004 11:47 PM
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no they weren't. it's a book. a book written by people. it can be destroyed and is thus NOT god. you have some idolotry issues.
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macaroniandcheese
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Message 63 of 215 (166603)
12-09-2004 4:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 53 by Swift
12-08-2004 11:42 PM
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solomon was rich and david had a grand army. why? because god gave it to them because they were faithful. there's lots to gain from religion because god says he will bless you. This message has been edited by brennakimi, 12-09-2004 04:27 PM
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macaroniandcheese
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Message 69 of 215 (166835)
12-10-2004 1:15 AM
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Reply to: Message 64 by Swift
12-09-2004 5:29 PM
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1. are people perfect 2. if no, then do you accept that we make mistakes? 3. even when it's important? 4. especially when it's important and there's lots of pressure? 5. bible=important 6. lots of mistakes. i'm not suggesting falsification (except maybe deuteronomy); but it's an edited compilation of many sacred documents. these documents are sacred because they give a hint to the character of god and how he relates to mankind, not because they are historically accurate or perfectly transcribed.
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