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Author Topic:   Hammer found in Cretaceous layer
JonF
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Message 12 of 160 (174083)
01-05-2005 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Tal
01-05-2005 9:57 AM


I know he took it to the labs in NASA for analysis
Pretty darned unlikely; I am pretty sure there are no NASA labs that do that kind of thing. There are plenty of non-NASA labs that do.
And, if there was actually third-party verification of the age claim, do you really think there would be no reference whatsoever to it anywhere on the Web? Particularly at Baugh'e site?

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JonF
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Message 13 of 160 (174086)
01-05-2005 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by contracycle
01-05-2005 10:15 AM


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The enclosing rock contains Lower Cretaceous fossils.
Note that, even if it does contain lower Cretaceous fossils, they may be reworked (which a fossil expert could probably evaluate immediately). IOW, the mere presence of Cretaceous fossils does not prove Cretaceous age for the rock/concretion until further analysis has been performed.

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JonF
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Message 61 of 160 (174760)
01-07-2005 2:43 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Percy
01-07-2005 11:39 AM


OT: Man as old as coal!!!!!!!!!!
Carl also has a fossilized human finger. It *is* a remarkable coincidence that a naturally formed rock could resemble a human finger, but nothing more
I can't resist ... Man as old as coal!. But see also Carboniferous human bones -- an evaluation.
(Ed's no creationist and believes an old Earth, BTW).

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JonF
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Message 77 of 160 (175113)
01-08-2005 9:23 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by edge
01-08-2005 8:35 PM


Re: Say What?
Isn't there a some kind of a boot in limestone someplace?
Yeah, the "limestone cowboy" with "fossilized" foot bones in an un-fossilized leather boot. And a "fossilized" hat in New Zealand. And a "fossilized" bat on top of a stalagmite. All limestone concretions found in caves. Sorry, I can't seem to dig up any Web references, although I know there are some.
And then of course there is the dry lake artifact that was supposed to be from some advanced, now vanished civilization. It turned out to be an old version of a spark plug.
That one I have a reference on. The Coso Artifact.

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JonF
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Message 84 of 160 (175211)
01-09-2005 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 82 by Buzsaw
01-09-2005 10:35 AM


Re: Mine Trixters
I see nothing produced by skeptics as to how the tricks were allegedly done, that is to produce items embeded in actual coal deposits artificially. Can you show how the tricksters allegedly did it?
I've seen, someplace that I forget, a discussion that hypothesized that the coal around the cup could be formerly loose coal accumulated around a cup dropped in a mine, cemented together by any of various mechanisms (e.g. limestane accumulation from percolating water). There are lots of ways in which such an artifact could have come to exist. Only professional examination can colapse the many possibilities into a few possibilities or one possibility.

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JonF
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Message 110 of 160 (180337)
01-24-2005 9:25 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by edge
01-24-2005 8:50 PM


Re: Hmmm, Makes one wonder.....
Do you at least have a picture of this cup?
The Iron Cup in Coal.
Note that replicas are available ... Replicas .. and the replicas are significantly different from the original.

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Message 128 of 160 (182545)
02-02-2005 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tal
01-05-2005 4:37 AM


Researching Charles Knight's recent and unrelated question, I stumbled across If I Had a Hammer.

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