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Author Topic:   Show one complete lineage in evolution
Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 241 of 246 (144303)
09-23-2004 10:42 PM
Reply to: Message 240 by MangyTiger
09-23-2004 10:28 PM


Re: HYPOCRISY
In other words you're trying to compare apples and oranges. The lineage of individuals is not the same as the lineage of species.
My accusation of hypocrisy was rhetorical.
You are busted.
You have no integrity.

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Message 242 of 246 (144304)
09-23-2004 10:46 PM
Reply to: Message 239 by Cold Foreign Object
09-23-2004 9:30 PM


Re: HYPOCRISY
Hi Willowtree,
In a short span of time you've impugned one member's integrity in one thread, and now you raise the accusation of hypocrisy in this thread. If you can't play nice with the other children and follow rule 3 of the Forum Guidelines you won't be allowed to play here anymore.

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 243 of 246 (144307)
09-23-2004 10:53 PM
Reply to: Message 242 by Admin
09-23-2004 10:46 PM


Re: HYPOCRISY
Admin:
I simply pointed out that a break in a chain in one subject refutes the claim but in another it does not.
If true is this not hypocrisy ?
Is a charge of hypocrisy against the Rules ?
If it is I will not level the charge and notify Admins when someone else does it.
WT
Edit:
If I am being racked for not being nice then I apologize.
This message has been edited by WILLOWTREE, 09-23-2004 10:07 PM

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Loudmouth
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Message 244 of 246 (144438)
09-24-2004 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 239 by Cold Foreign Object
09-23-2004 9:30 PM


Re: HYPOCRISY
quote:
Mangy Tiger is an evolutionist arguing that the British Royal Crown MUST not contain a single break in the lineage OR the claim is refuted.
Now in this thread you evos assert the opposite.
Where did anyone argue that a break in the Royal Line does not refute the claim?
quote:
The only issue is macro evolution - one species evolving into another.
The formation of new species has been observed.
Observed Instances of Speciation
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html

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SAGREB
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Message 245 of 246 (163368)
11-26-2004 5:08 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by SkepticToAll
07-19-2004 8:57 PM


Toe number of protocetids.
Whales as well as protocetids had 5 toes. Hippopotamus has only 4 toes like all other eventoed ungulates. That would be an argument for creationists.
The evolutionary explanation would be a mutation that reactivated formation of the fifth lost toe in the ancestor to whales and protocetids after they split from the hippopotamuses. Or is it the case that the fifth toe actually hasnt been completely lost?

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Soplar
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Message 246 of 246 (175032)
01-08-2005 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by SkepticToAll
07-19-2004 8:57 PM


Lineage argument is wrong tack
The argument that a complete lineage must be shown to prove evolution is a specious argument. Several responses to this msg have demonstrated the difficulty of finding the lineage; however, the real proof of evolution is that evolution is a process which is readily observable and which we now understand suffienctly well to know how it works (mutations due to DNA copying errors when cells divide). Knowing how the evolutionary process works allows us to see how life evolved. The fact that there are "gaps" is equivalent to the problems geneologits have when birth and death records are destroyed during fires or other calamaties. But the lack of a complete geneological record doesn't bring into question the fact that members of a family had parents.
Soplar

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