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Author Topic:   Inerrancy of the Bible 2
ramoss
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Message 53 of 118 (179813)
01-22-2005 10:43 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Incognito
01-22-2005 4:39 AM


Re: Ahaz and Big Bang references
Actually, many of the string theories point to a cyclical universe, not one that is 'instantanious'.

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Message 69 of 118 (179923)
01-23-2005 11:43 AM
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01-23-2005 9:56 AM


Re: "Sweet Influences"??? "36 Christians" help?
Let's see, you haven't dealt with the luke/matthew nativity problem yet.
Then, the translation of Psalm 22.. (k'ari does not mean pierced).
You have not dealth with the lack of resources 2 million people in the desert would need for 40 years.
For that matter, how did Judas die?

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Message 80 of 118 (180153)
01-24-2005 9:32 AM
Reply to: Message 75 by Incognito
01-23-2005 11:25 PM


Re: Errors have been weak at best, any of you believers yet?
You dealt with how?? By saying that god gave them manna for 40 years. WOW.. What a silly answer. COme on now, where does it say that god provided manna for 40 whole years?? Where did they get water? Where
did they camp, and put their refuge?? (show me the arcelogical site).
I mean, are you for real?? You are coming up with the most strange and bizarre ways to try to explain away things, that frankly, do not even begin to succeed.
I mean, trying to say that Judas was hung, and then had his entrails
blow out after he started to decompose is really strange, and just shows the lengths the passages in question have to be twisted to provide the answer.. thanks for the link though.. I will have to post
it for people who remember a similar explaintion that they laughted at.
And frankly, trying to use a site dedicated to try to convert Jewish people for the meaning of Pierced is hardly what I consider a valid source on the biblical meaning of words. It is just repeating a lie.
Over and over again. What is it, if you want to know what biblical
hebrew means, don't ask a Rabbi, but ask a baptist instead??
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Message 89 of 118 (180742)
01-26-2005 8:16 AM
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01-26-2005 4:18 AM


Re: I think it says it in Exodus 16:35
Boy, you like to really avoid the issue. Even if the bizare concept you have they ate manna is true (very unbiblical besides no evidence for), then they would still have to eat, sleep, and leave their bowel movements.. there is more to traveling than eating..

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ramoss
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Message 97 of 118 (180922)
01-26-2005 5:48 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Phat
01-26-2005 9:00 AM


Re: I think it says it in Exodus 16:35
Dr. Aardsma?? Isn't that the guy from the IRC who had that bizarre idea about the speed of light decaying?? You know, the guy that slams carbon dating, and all that sort of stuff.
You want to use HIM as a source??
How about if you point to a peer reviewed archelogical journal with an article by him on this subject. I don't mean pointing to a web site that appeals the scientifically naive, and talks about looking for noahs ark, misreprenting radiocarbon dating, and lies. Just a good peer reviewed article. If someone is going to try to use archelogy and science to prove a point, they should go through scientific review.
I did find a review of the proposal on bibleorigns.net
AardsmaExodusTheoryEBII
It tears the concept up to shreds.
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ramoss
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Message 109 of 118 (180994)
01-27-2005 12:21 AM
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01-26-2005 6:48 PM


Re: I think it says it in Exodus 16:35
Well, he certainly is no archelogist.. and anybody that gets mixed up with the IRC is not quite sane.
TEll me, did you actually READ that web site.. searching for noahs ark, and all that sort of nonsense.
He might be 'honest'.. but he sure has some weird, unsubstantiated beliefs.

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Message 111 of 118 (181079)
01-27-2005 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 110 by Phat
01-27-2005 6:05 AM


Re: Biblical Inerrency: Noah
Well, it's like this. When someone holds onto a belief (I.e. a world wide flood) inspite of the massive amounts of evidence it did not happen , nor could it happen, then, it is irrational.
And, you should have faith in the IPU, don't ask me, ask her.

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ramoss
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Message 114 of 118 (181297)
01-28-2005 7:44 AM
Reply to: Message 112 by Phat
01-27-2005 10:49 AM


Re: Biblical Inerrency: Noah
Can you tell me your perception of 'meeting' god was not all in your mind? People have had such life changing experiances before, and believe me, they all didn't become Christians. Many didn't even become theists, but rather non-theistic buddhists.
Professor Persinger, of Toronto university has managed to reproduce these experianes artifically in people, using a device that stimulate certain sections of the brain, and quiesse others, by the use of magnetic impulses.
Just because people have these experiances doesn't mean that is anything but a personal illusion, and certainly doesn't mean that
the book they study is true. If so, everyone that had them would have
been directed to Chrisitanity, not some to it, some to other religions.

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ramoss
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Message 117 of 118 (181356)
01-28-2005 11:39 AM
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01-28-2005 9:01 AM


Re: Biblical Inerrency: Noah
This is getting too involved for this particular thread..

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